Skip to content
Horse profile

But I Wont Do That (IRE)

4yo gelding (at last run, May 2022) · Last trainer Muredach Kelly · Last owner D Grealish
by Dragon Pulse (IRE) out of Epistoliere (IRE) (Alzao)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Apr 2022
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 15 May 2022 — 1,634 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2022 · 10th of 15
KTB Profile

But I Wont Do That is a Dragon Pulse gelding who was yet to win from three starts on turf between Apr 2022 and May 2022. He raced over 1m5f to 2m4f on good or good to soft going at three different tracks and finished 10 of 15 in the Killarney Towers Hotel Maiden Hurdle at Killarney in May 2022. He was aged 4 at his last run.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 91 the best of the last 1 graded (A or B) run · Down Royal, 2 May 2022

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 91B · median 74
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good to Soft291B58—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m291B58—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 93C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Killarney, 15 May 2022

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 93C · median 87
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good to Soft287A86.5—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m287A86.5—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 4,271 runs since Mar 2016 (320 horses).

Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 13.3% from 572. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5% from 363.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2328.7%−0.2—
Good to Firm4484510%+1.1—
Good918798.6%−0.30 from 1
Good to Soft422358.3%−0.60 from 2
Soft779486.2%−2.7—
Heavy286238%−0.9—
Standard (AW)1,39514710.5%+1.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f5727613.3%+4.4—
6f – 7f1,5041187.8%−1.1—
1m – 1m1f932778.3%−0.6—
1m2f – 1m4f6857310.7%+1.8—
1m5f – 2m363185%−3.90 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f171148.2%−0.70 from 1
2m5f – 3m4237.1%−1.8—
Over 3m200%−8.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Mar 2016 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Epistoliere (IRE) (Alzao)

10 siblings in the archive, 6 winners — best of them Simenon (IRE) (9 wins).

The wins came over 7f–3m; the highest grade won is Grade 3 (Simenon (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Simenon (IRE)4797f–3mGrade 3
Smiley Bagel (IRE)3761m2f–1m4fClass 5
Vivacious Vivienne (IRE)2551m2f–1m4½f—
Right To Rule (IRE)2431m2f–2m5fClass 4
Affina (IRE)1027fClass 4
Kyurem (IRE)1311m—
Mary Montagu (IRE)20——
Countess Dash (IRE)10——
Fulbright Scholar (IRE)60——
Mots Croises (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Killarney 1 0 0% −1.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Ballinrobe 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Ricky Doyle 1 0 0% −1.00
Michael O'Sullivan 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr D G Lavery 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2022 · 3 runs
15 May 22+13d Killarney Killarney Towers Hotel Maiden Hurdle 2m1f · Good · 15 ran 10/15 ½ 10-13 74C93C Ricky Doyle 150/1
02 May 22+24d Down Royal Energise Energy (Pro/Am) Flat Race 2m½f · Good To Yielding · 14 ran 9/14 1¼ 11-0 91B87A Michael O'Sullivan 40/1
08 Apr 22 Ballinrobe DPD Depot 33 Ballinrobe Flat Race 1m7½f · Good To Yielding · 12 ran 9/12 3¾ 11-4 25C86C Mr D G Lavery 22/1

Quick answers

How many races has But I Wont Do That won?
But I Wont Do That (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2022.
Who trained But I Wont Do That?
But I Wont Do That (IRE) was trained by Muredach Kelly on the most recent run on record, at Killarney on 15 May 2022.
Who is But I Wont Do That's sire?
But I Wont Do That (IRE) is by Dragon Pulse (IRE) out of Epistoliere (IRE), whose sire is Alzao.
What is But I Wont Do That's sire's record?
Dragon Pulse (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 4,271 runs since Mar 2016 (320 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 13.3% from 572. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5% from 363.
Who are But I Wont Do That's siblings?
Out of Epistoliere (IRE), But I Wont Do That (IRE) has 10 other produce in our archive, 6 of them winners. Most wins: Simenon (IRE) (9). Highest grade won: Grade 3 (Simenon (IRE)). The wins came over 7f–3m. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from April 2022. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.