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Horse profile

Can't Say (GB)

10yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2025) · Last trainer Chris Down · Last owner Mrs J Stuart
by Phenomena (GB) out of Lizzy's Lass (GB) (Bollin Eric)
9 runs · 4 courses · from Apr 2021
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Mar 2025 — 599 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2025 · 8th of 12 Won at Ffos Las First-time headgear LTO Last raced off OR 98
KTB Profile

Can't Say won the Daily Price Boosts At Yeeehaaa.Bet Novices' Handicap Hurdle at Ffos Las in May 2024 at Class 5 level off an official rating of 97 on good to soft going over 2m5f – 3m. The gelding, who raced on turf in all nine starts, recorded one win and two places from those runs. He finished eighth of 12 at Exeter in Mar 2025 on his first run in first-time headgear. The horse last ran off an official rating of 98.

Based on 9 archived runs · run-style from 3 commented runs since Jan 2025 · updated 27 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Win at Class 5
Official rating98↓ 3lb off peak
98 97–101

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 110 the best of the last 2 graded (A or B) runs · Exeter, 8 Mar 2024

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 7 figures · best 128C · median 77
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good377C75—
Soft2110B103—
Good to Soft2128C88.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m4128C86.5—
1m5f – 2m2110B88—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 9 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (1) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 9 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 124A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Ffos Las, 7 May 2024 Official rating 98 at the last run, 7 Mar 2025

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 8 figures · best 124A · median 100
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good395C95—
Soft3115A103—
Good to Soft2124A111—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m4124A100.5—
1m5f – 2m3115A102—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 9 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 9 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 3 analysed runs since Jan 2025

  • Prominent 3 (100%) · 0 wins

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Phenomena (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 3.1% of 65 runs since Jan 2008 (15 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−3.1—
Good to Firm900%−3.1—
Good1417.1%+40 from 3
Good to Soft7114.3%+11.21 from 2
Soft1400%−3.10 from 4
Heavy400%−3.1—
Standard (AW)1500%−3.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f200%−3.1—
6f – 7f500%−3.1—
1m – 1m1f700%−3.1—
1m2f – 1m4f2000%−3.1—
1m5f – 2m1616.3%+3.20 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f800%−3.10 from 1
2m5f – 3m6116.7%+13.61 from 5
Over 3m100%−3.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Lizzy's Lass (GB) (Bollin Eric)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 2 1 50% +49.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 5 1 20% +46.00
Class 4 4 0 0% −4.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Exeter 6 0 0% −6.00
Wincanton 1 0 0% −1.00
Ffos Las 1 1 100% +50.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 5 1 20% +46.00
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
James Davies 5 1 20% +46.00
Ben Ffrench Davis 2 0 0% −2.00
Joe Anderson 2 0 0% −2.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 8 1 13% +43.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2025 3 0 0% −3.00
2024 4 1 25% +47.00
2023 1 0 0% −1.00
2021 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 8 1 13% +43.00
NH Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2025 · 3 runs
07 Mar 25+20d Exeter Exe Trak Ltd Ground Protection Mats Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 23f · Good · 12 ran Handy behind the front group - driven approaching 4 out then dropped away - finished well adrift 8/12 25 11-7 9877C95C James Davies 33/1
15 Feb 25+45d Wincanton Gamble Responsibly At BetMGM Novices' Handicap Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 24.5f · Soft · 9 ran Handy behind front group early - slipped back through the field before a heavy blunder 7th sent them further back - well behind by 3 out - eased and pulled up soon after PU/9 — 11-0 100—— Ben Ffrench Davis 20/1
01 Jan 25+239d Exeter Peter Holland Memorial Handicap Hurdle (Div 1) Class 5 · 21.5f · Soft · 11 ran Settled behind the pace on the wide side - urged forward past the 7th - lost touch approaching 2 out - eventually finished fifth 5/11 12 11-10 10196C103C James Davies 12/1
2024 · 4 runs
07 May 24+18d Ffos Las Daily Price Boosts At Yeeehaaa.Bet Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 24f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 1/10 11-6 97128C124A James Davies 50/1
19 Apr 24+42d Exeter Bell Inn Bovey Tracey Novices' Handicap Hurdle (Div 2) Class 5 · 18.5f · Good · 10 ran 7/10 11 11-9 9975C95C Joe Anderson 14/1
08 Mar 24+37d Exeter CRS Building Supplies 'National Hunt' Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 16.5f · Soft · 9 ran 3/9 13 11-5 —110B102A James Davies 16/1
31 Jan 24+49d Exeter Kennford Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 21.5f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 5/16 20 11-5 —49C98C Ben Ffrench Davis 125/1
2023 · 1 run
13 Dec 23+982d Exeter Bickham House 'National Hunt' Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 16.5f · Soft · 15 ran 5/15 9½ 11-4 ——115A James Davies 200/1
2021 · 1 run
05 Apr 21 Chepstow BMC Back British Manufacturing Standard Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 5 · 16f · Good · 7 ran 7/7 14 10-6 —66A67A Joe Anderson 40/1

Quick answers

How many races has Can't Say won?
Can't Say (GB) won 1 of 9 archived starts between 2021 and 2025, a strike rate of 11.1%. Placed 2 times in total (22.2% of starts).
Who trained Can't Say?
Can't Say (GB) was trained by Chris Down on the most recent run on record, at Exeter on 7 March 2025.
Who is Can't Say's sire?
Can't Say (GB) is by Phenomena (GB) out of Lizzy's Lass (GB), whose sire is Bollin Eric.
What is Can't Say's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 98, from the run on 7 March 2025. The highest on record is 101.
What is Can't Say's sire's record?
Phenomena (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 3.1% of 65 runs since Jan 2008 (15 horses), Flat and jumps together.

Record shown from April 2021. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.