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Horse profile

Cicero Grimes (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2024) · Last trainer P M J Doyle · Last owner Mrs Mary Doyle
by Mount Nelson (GB) out of Victorine (IRE) (Un Desperado)
1 run · 1 course · from Mar 2024
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 5 Mar 2024 — 974 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2024 First-time headgear LTO
KTB Profile

Cicero Grimes is a lightly raced gelding who finished unplaced on his only start in the Racing Again March 16th Maiden Hunters Chase at Thurles in Mar 2024. He raced over 3m on heavy ground in first-time headgear that day for trainer P M J Doyle. By Mount Nelson whose progeny have won 622 of 6,257 runs since Jan 2008, he is out of a dam who has produced six winners from nine runners to race, including City Island with five wins.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Of 1 run looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 1 run · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Of 1 run looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.9% of 6,278 runs since May 2012 (538 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3026.7%−3.2—
Good to Firm6437311.4%+1.5—
Good1,6801508.9%−1—
Good to Soft1,04411110.6%+0.7—
Soft1,2531249.9%0—
Heavy4535111.3%+1.40 from 1
Standard (AW)1,1751139.6%−0.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f9888.2%−1.7—
6f – 7f864859.8%−0.1—
1m – 1m1f678497.2%−2.7—
1m2f – 1m4f1,22314812.1%+2.2—
1m5f – 2m1,5941559.7%−0.2—
2m1f – 2m4f1,2031199.9%0—
2m5f – 3m537529.7%−0.2—
Over 3m8189.9%00 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since May 2012 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Victorine (IRE) (Un Desperado)

9 siblings in the archive, 6 winners — best of them City Island (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 1m5½f–3m1½f; the highest grade won is Grade 1 (City Island (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
City Island (IRE)1352m–2m5fGrade 1
Fort Worth (IRE)2541m5½f–3mClass 3
Easy Street (IRE)2742m4f–3m1½fClass 4
Tasitiocht (IRE)1142m–2m4f—
Pink Hat (IRE)1342m–2m3½f—
O Connell Street (IRE)2022m4fClass 4
Thiscouldbetheone (IRE)70——
Previctorious (IRE)50——
Dreams Are Forever (IRE)10——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2024 · 1 run
05 Mar 24 Thurles Racing Again March 16th Maiden Hunters Chase 3m1f · Heavy · 10 ran PU/10 — 11-7 —— Miss S Doyle 11/2

Quick answers

How many races has Cicero Grimes won?
Cicero Grimes (IRE) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2024.
Who trained Cicero Grimes?
Cicero Grimes (IRE) was trained by P M J Doyle on the most recent run on record, at Thurles on 5 March 2024.
Who is Cicero Grimes's sire?
Cicero Grimes (IRE) is by Mount Nelson (GB) out of Victorine (IRE), whose sire is Un Desperado.
What is Cicero Grimes's sire's record?
Mount Nelson (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.9% of 6,278 runs since May 2012 (538 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Cicero Grimes's siblings?
Out of Victorine (IRE), Cicero Grimes (IRE) has 9 other produce in our archive, 6 of them winners. Most wins: City Island (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Grade 1 (City Island (IRE)). The wins came over 1m5½f–3m1½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from March 2024. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.