Commanche Vic (IRE)
Commanche Vic (IRE) is yet to win from 4 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 3rd of 18 at Limerick (Dec 2015).
- 0–4Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 1 (25%)Placed
- −4.00£1 level staken=4 at SP
- 88Highest OR
- 119dAvg between runs
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 11.7% of 6,916 runs since Jan 2008 (630 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 30 | 4 | 13.3% | +1.6 | — |
| Good to Firm | 397 | 44 | 11.1% | −0.6 | — |
| Good | 1,797 | 242 | 13.5% | +1.8 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 1,169 | 115 | 9.8% | −1.9 | — |
| Soft | 2,053 | 249 | 12.1% | +0.4 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 1,447 | 157 | 10.9% | −0.8 | 0 from 2 |
| Standard (AW) | 23 | 0 | 0% | −11.7 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −11.7 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 24 | 2 | 8.3% | −3.4 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1,499 | 173 | 11.5% | −0.2 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 2,249 | 260 | 11.6% | −0.1 | 0 from 1 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 2,398 | 284 | 11.8% | +0.1 | 0 from 3 |
| Over 3m | 742 | 92 | 12.4% | +0.7 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Barters Hill (IRE) (7 wins).
The wins came over 2m–3m½f; the highest grade won is Grade 1 (Barters Hill (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Barters Hill (IRE) | 11 | 7 | 2m–3m½f | Grade 1 |
| Kalanisi Circle (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
| Knight Of Ards (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Heavy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Limerick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Roscommon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Navan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Thurles | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shane Shortall | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| John Cullen | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2015 · 4 runs | |||||||||
| 28 Dec 15+91d | Limerick | Parkway Shopping Centre Handicap Hurdle (80-102) | 3/18 | 1¼ | 10-7 | 88 | 102A | Shane Shortall | 25/1 |
| 28 Sep 15+247d | Roscommon | Munsboro Maiden Hurdle | 8/16 | 1½ | 10-13 | — | 86C | Shane Shortall | 66/1 |
| 24 Jan 15+19d | Navan | www.navanracecourse.ie Maiden Hurdle | 8/12 | 6½ | 11-12 | — | 97C | John Cullen | 100/1 |
| 05 Jan 15 | Thurles | Thurles.ie Maiden Hurdle | 8/13 | 3½ | 10-13 | — | 96C | Shane Shortall | 66/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Commanche Vic won?
- Commanche Vic (IRE) has yet to win, from 4 archived starts in 2015. Placed 1 time in total (25% of starts).
- Who trained Commanche Vic?
- Commanche Vic (IRE) was trained by Leonard Whitmore on the most recent run on record, at Limerick on 28 December 2015.
- Who is Commanche Vic's sire?
- Commanche Vic (IRE) is by Old Vic (GB) out of Circle The Wagons (IRE), whose sire is Commanche Run.
- What is Commanche Vic's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 88, from the run on 28 December 2015. That is also the highest on record.
- What is Commanche Vic's sire's record?
- Old Vic (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.7% of 6,916 runs since Jan 2008 (630 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Commanche Vic's siblings?
- Out of Circle The Wagons (IRE), Commanche Vic (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Barters Hill (IRE) (7). Highest grade won: Grade 1 (Barters Hill (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–3m½f. As at Oct 2026.