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Horse profile

Dancing Ellie (GB)

3yo filly (at last run, Aug 2008) · Last trainer Pat Phelan · Last owner The Savage Gardens Racing Partnership
by Where Or When (IRE) out of Eleonor Sympson (GB) (Cadeaux Genereux)
4 runs · 3 courses · from Oct 2007
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 23 Aug 2008 — 6,639 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2008 · 15th of 15 Last raced off OR 49
KTB Profile

Dancing Ellie (GB) is yet to win from 4 starts.

Based on 4 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 46A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Windsor, 5 May 2008 Official rating 49 at the last run, 23 Aug 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 4 figures · best 46A · median 42
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good to Soft239C37.5—
Good1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f346A45—
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Where Or When (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008 (124 horses).

Weakest on soft going: 4.1% from 217. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 4.6% from 151.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm18211.1%+1.9—
Good to Firm258238.9%−0.3—
Good365359.6%+0.40 from 1
Good to Soft1932211.4%+2.20 from 2
Soft21794.1%−5.10 from 1
Heavy841011.9%+2.7—
Standard (AW)443449.9%+0.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f53815.1%+5.9—
6f – 7f15174.6%−4.6—
1m – 1m1f209157.2%−20 from 3
1m2f – 1m4f5226211.9%+2.7—
1m5f – 2m391359%−0.20 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f174126.9%−2.3—
2m5f – 3m7168.5%−0.7—
Over 3m700%−9.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Eleonor Sympson (GB) (Cadeaux Genereux)

4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Was My Valentine (GB) (1 win).

The wins came over 6f–2m; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Hermione's Magic (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Was My Valentine (GB)1512mClass 6
Hermione's Magic (GB)216fClass 5
Lilly's John (GB)30——
Elizabeth Garrett (GB)250——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Goodwood 2 0 0% −2.00
Windsor 1 0 0% −1.00
Folkestone 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Ian Mongan 3 0 0% −3.00
Luke Morris 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 3 0 0% −3.00
2007 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2008 · 3 runs
23 Aug 08+110d Goodwood Turftv Is For Betting Shops Maiden Handicap Class 5 · 16f · Good To Soft · 15 ran 15/15 3¾ 8-1 4939C Luke Morris 40/1
05 May 08+25d Windsor Arena Leisure Catering Median Auction Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 8f · Good · 14 ran 11/14 2¼ 8-10 4946A Ian Mongan 100/1
10 Apr 08+179d Folkestone Folkestone Racecourse For Weddings Maiden Fillies' Stakes Class 5 · 9.5f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 7/7 11 9-0 4836C Ian Mongan 40/1
2007 · 1 run
14 Oct 07 Goodwood European Breeders' Fund TurfTV Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 9f · Soft · 13 ran 11/13 29 8-12 —45C Ian Mongan 66/1

Quick answers

How many races has Dancing Ellie won?
Dancing Ellie (GB) has yet to win, from 4 archived starts between 2007 and 2008.
Who trained Dancing Ellie?
Dancing Ellie (GB) was trained by Pat Phelan on the most recent run on record, at Goodwood on 23 August 2008.
Who is Dancing Ellie's sire?
Dancing Ellie (GB) is by Where Or When (IRE) out of Eleonor Sympson (GB), whose sire is Cadeaux Genereux.
What is Dancing Ellie's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 49, from the run on 23 August 2008. That is also the highest on record.
What is Dancing Ellie's sire's record?
Where Or When (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008 (124 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 4.1% from 217. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 4.6% from 151.
Who are Dancing Ellie's siblings?
Out of Eleonor Sympson (GB), Dancing Ellie (GB) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Was My Valentine (GB) (1). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Hermione's Magic (GB)). The wins came over 6f–2m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.