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Horse profile

Definite Surprise (IRE)

9yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2016) · Last trainer I Madden · Last owner I Madden
by Definite Article (GB) out of Lady Bagatelle (FR) (Tel Quel)
4 runs · 4 courses · from Apr 2015
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 19 Aug 2016 — 3,729 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2016 Won at Cork Last raced off OR 95
KTB Profile

Definite Surprise (IRE) is 1 from 4. Hasn't won since Apr 2015.

Based on 4 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 115B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Down Royal, 4 May 2015 Official rating 95 at the last run, 19 Aug 2016

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 115B · median 115
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good1———
Good to Soft1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m3115B115—

Of 4 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Definite Article (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 5,617 runs since Jan 2008 (527 horses).

Weakest on standard (aw) going: 5.1% from 138. Weakest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 4.3% from 211.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm26519.2%+8.7—
Good to Firm5316913%+2.5—
Good2,03122411%+0.50 from 1
Good to Soft8358910.7%+0.20 from 2
Soft1,3771228.9%−1.61 from 1
Heavy6797410.9%+0.4—
Standard (AW)13875.1%−5.4—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f11218.2%+7.7—
1m – 1m1f49510.2%−0.3—
1m2f – 1m4f21194.3%−6.2—
1m5f – 2m1,81118510.2%−0.3—
2m1f – 2m4f1,90020410.7%+0.2—
2m5f – 3m1,34915611.6%+1.11 from 3
Over 3m2862910.1%−0.40 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Lady Bagatelle (FR) (Tel Quel)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
No Limitations (IRE)20——
Slight Mistake (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 1 100% +20.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 1 100% +20.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 3 1 33% +18.00
Over 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Robbie Colgan 2 0 0% −2.00
Mr J J King 2 1 50% +19.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 2 0 0% −2.00
Tongue tie 2 1 50% +19.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2016 2 0 0% −2.00
2015 2 1 50% +19.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 3 1 33% +18.00
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2016 · 2 runs
19 Aug 16+33d Kilbeggan Coola Handicap Chase 3m1f · Good To Yielding · 13 ran PU/13 — 10-3 95— Robbie Colgan 14/1
17 Jul 16+440d Tipperary Ballykisteen Hotel & Golf Resort Hurdle 3m · Good · 8 ran 8/8 42 11-1 —92C Robbie Colgan 25/1
2015 · 2 runs
04 May 15+28d Down Royal Newmac Contracts Ltd. Hunters Chase 2m7f · Good To Yielding · 8 ran 2/8 4¼ 11-4 —115B Mr J J King 7/1
06 Apr 15 Cork Coolmore N.h. Sires Leading Light & Ocovango Maiden Hunters Chase 3m · Yielding · 13 ran 1/13 11-9 —115A Mr J J King 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Definite Surprise won?
Definite Surprise (IRE) won 1 of 4 archived starts between 2015 and 2016, a strike rate of 25%. Placed 2 times in total (50% of starts).
Who trained Definite Surprise?
Definite Surprise (IRE) was trained by I Madden on the most recent run on record, at Kilbeggan on 19 August 2016.
Who is Definite Surprise's sire?
Definite Surprise (IRE) is by Definite Article (GB) out of Lady Bagatelle (FR), whose sire is Tel Quel.
What is Definite Surprise's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 95, from the run on 19 August 2016. That is also the highest on record.
What is Definite Surprise's sire's record?
Definite Article (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 5,617 runs since Jan 2008 (527 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 5.1% from 138. Weakest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 4.3% from 211.
Who are Definite Surprise's siblings?
Out of Lady Bagatelle (FR), Definite Surprise (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from April 2015. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.