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Horse profile

Dersumthingaboutim (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2017) · Last trainer J T R Dreaper · Last owner Conaty Murray Partnership
by Court Cave (IRE) out of Clara's Dream (IRE) (Phardante)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Jul 2017
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 28 Aug 2017 — 3,347 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2017 · 6th of 7
KTB Profile

Dersumthingaboutim (IRE) is yet to win from 3 starts. Best effort: 4th of 9 at Limerick (Jul 2017).

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 129 the best of the last 2 graded (A or B) runs · Limerick, 27 Jul 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 129B · median 83
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good3129B83—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f2129B106—
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 98A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Limerick, 27 Jul 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 98A · median 89
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good398A89—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f298A93.5—
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Court Cave (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 7,938 runs since Jan 2008 (551 horses).

Weakest on heavy going: 6.8% from 937.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−10.1—
Good to Firm2332812%+1.9—
Good3,02634111.3%+1.20 from 3
Good to Soft1,44016111.2%+1.1—
Soft2,2292049.2%−0.9—
Heavy937646.8%−3.3—
Standard (AW)7134.2%−5.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f2414.2%−5.9—
1m – 1m1f1300%−10.1—
1m2f – 1m4f7111.4%−8.7—
1m5f – 2m1,7871699.5%−0.60 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f2,85229410.3%+0.20 from 2
2m5f – 3m2,52226410.5%+0.4—
Over 3m6697210.8%+0.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Clara's Dream (IRE) (Phardante)

5 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Tahiti Pearl (IRE) (6 wins).

The wins came over 2m½f–2m3½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Tahiti Pearl (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Tahiti Pearl (IRE)4262m½f–2m3½fClass 3
Candeeiro (IRE)50——
Burlington Bertie (IRE)40——
Clarahib (IRE)20——
Liscananaun Lady (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Downpatrick 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Bellewstown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
A E Lynch 2 0 0% −2.00
Mark Enright 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 3 runs
28 Aug 17+32d Downpatrick Profile Systems Maiden Hurdle 19f · Good · 7 ran 6/7 20 11-12 83C89C A E Lynch 50/1
27 Jul 17+19d Limerick Keanes Jewellers Ladies Day 8th October (C & G) Maiden Hurdle 20f · Good · 9 ran 4/9 18 11-12 129B98A A E Lynch 33/1
08 Jul 17 Bellewstown Tierney Kitchens Balbriggan Maiden Hurdle 16.5f · Good · 13 ran 6/13 16 11-4 64B86A Mark Enright 40/1

Quick answers

How many races has Dersumthingaboutim won?
Dersumthingaboutim (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2017.
Who trained Dersumthingaboutim?
Dersumthingaboutim (IRE) was trained by J T R Dreaper on the most recent run on record, at Downpatrick on 28 August 2017.
Who is Dersumthingaboutim's sire?
Dersumthingaboutim (IRE) is by Court Cave (IRE) out of Clara's Dream (IRE), whose sire is Phardante.
What is Dersumthingaboutim's sire's record?
Court Cave (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 7,938 runs since Jan 2008 (551 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 6.8% from 937.
Who are Dersumthingaboutim's siblings?
Out of Clara's Dream (IRE), Dersumthingaboutim (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Tahiti Pearl (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Tahiti Pearl (IRE)). The wins came over 2m½f–2m3½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from July 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.