Discussion (IRE)
Discussion (IRE) is a maiden who has run five times on turf without winning though she placed once. All starts have come over 1m5f – 2m. Her best effort came when second of nine at Fairyhouse in Dec 2023. She finished 11 of 14 at Listowel (IRE) in Sep 2026.
- 0–5Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 1 (20%)Placed
- −5.00£1 level staken=5 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=5 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 254dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 105
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 18 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 2 | 74C | 67 | 1 · — |
| Heavy | 2 | 105A | 97.5 | — |
| Good to Soft | 1 | — | — | 1 · — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 18 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 5 | 105A | 74 | 2 · 74 / 65 |
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 8% of 3,566 runs since Jan 2008 (358 horses).
Strongest on good to firm going: 12.6% from 333. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 12% from 125. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 5% from 179.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 13 | 2 | 15.4% | +7.4 | — |
| Good to Firm | 333 | 42 | 12.6% | +4.6 | — |
| Good | 891 | 57 | 6.4% | −1.6 | — |
| Good to Soft | 364 | 24 | 6.6% | −1.4 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 622 | 32 | 5.1% | −2.9 | 0 from 2 |
| Heavy | 234 | 17 | 7.3% | −0.7 | 0 from 2 |
| Standard (AW) | 1,109 | 112 | 10.1% | +2.1 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 125 | 15 | 12% | +4 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 946 | 76 | 8% | 0 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,028 | 82 | 8% | 0 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 797 | 70 | 8.8% | +0.8 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 455 | 34 | 7.5% | −0.5 | 0 from 5 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 179 | 9 | 5% | −3 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 28 | 0 | 0% | −8 | — |
| Over 3m | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 18 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
4 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Wolf Prince (IRE) (6 wins).
The wins came over 6f–2m2f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Wolf Prince (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wolf Prince (IRE) | 40 | 6 | 2m–2m2f | Class 3 |
| Ciaras Cookie (IRE) | 33 | 3 | 6f–7f | Class 5 |
| Gardone (IRE) | 21 | 1 | 1m2½f | — |
| Holly Dowland (IRE) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Heavy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fairyhouse | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Listowel (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Galway (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Leopardstown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mr Finian Maguire | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Mr J H Williamson | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2024 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2023 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 25 Sep 26+18d | Listowel (IRE) | Shanahan Power Irish EBF Mares (Pro/Am) Flat Race Sat close to the front group early - held 6th at halfway - lost touch 4f out and finished well adrift | 11/14 | 22 | 11-11 | 56C | 88C | Mr Finian Maguire | 16/1 |
| 07 Sep 26+891d | Galway (IRE) | Kenny Developments Irish EBF Mares Flat Race Settled early - slipped back to 10th by halfway - rallied over 2f out then held on steadily for 5th | 5/18 | 15 | 11-11 | 74C | 95C | Mr Finian Maguire | 5/1 |
| 30 Mar 24+55d | Fairyhouse | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Total Enjoyment Mares Flat Race (Listed) | 5/7 | ¾ | 11-4 | 105A | 117A | Mr Finian Maguire | 25/1 |
| 04 Feb 24+50d | Leopardstown | Coolmore N.H. Sires 'Hurricane Lane' Irish EBF Mares I.N.H. Flat Race (Grade 2) | 7/13 | 2½ | 11-4 | 60B | 113A | Mr J H Williamson | 125/1 |
| 16 Dec 23 | Fairyhouse | Irish Stallion Farms EBF 4-Y-O Fillies Flat Race | 2/9 | 5 | 11-5 | 90A | 117A | Mr Finian Maguire | 22/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Discussion (IRE) won?
- Discussion (IRE) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts between 2023 and 2026. Placed 1 time in total (20% of starts).
- Who trains Discussion (IRE)?
- Discussion (IRE) is trained by Charles Weld, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 25 September 2026.
- Who is Discussion (IRE)'s sire?
- Discussion (IRE) is by Dawn Approach (IRE) out of Preach (IRE), whose sire is Danehill Dancer.
- What is Discussion (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Dawn Approach (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 8% of 3,566 runs since Jan 2008 (358 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 12.6% from 333. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 12% from 125. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 5% from 179.
- Who are Discussion (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of Preach (IRE), Discussion (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Wolf Prince (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Wolf Prince (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–2m2f. As at Oct 2026.