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Horse profile

Don't Talk (GER)

9yo gelding · Trainer Karl Thornton · Owner Gary Ryan
by Jukebox Jury (IRE) out of Dalarna (GER) (Dashing Blade)
25 runs · 14 courses · from Jan 2022
As at 18 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
4 wins · Fairyhouse & Down Royal Off 275 days Last raced off OR 107
KTB Profile

Don't Talk won four of 25 starts all in handicaps between Dec 2023 and Jan 2025. Three of those wins came at Fairyhouse and one at Down Royal, with three over 2m1f – 2m4f on soft or heavy ground. He raced prominently when last seen off a mark of 107 at Fairyhouse in Jan 2026. The gelding, by Jukebox Jury out of Dalarna, has shown most of his form on turf.

Based on 25 archived runs · run-style from 6 commented runs · updated 18 Oct 2026
Official rating107↓ 3lb off peak
107 91–110

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 98 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Fairyhouse, 7 Feb 2024

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 17 figures · best 99B · median 70
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
Soft771B511 · —
Heavy599B931 · —
Good to Soft394C70—
Good290A80—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f999B712 · 78 / 53.5
1m5f – 2m898A65.5—

Of 25 runs looked at, 8 have no figure: did not complete (3) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (3) · not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (2).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 17 figures from 25 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 103C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Cork, 7 Dec 2025 Official rating 107 at the last run, 15 Jan 2026

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 21 figures · best 124B · median 103
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
Soft10120A1031 · —
Heavy5122A1091 · —
Good to Soft4124B99—
Good2102B91—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f11124B1022 · 103 / 102
1m5f – 2m10120A104—

Of 25 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (4).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 21 figures from 25 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 6 analysed runs

  • Prominent 3 (50%) · 1 win
  • Held up 3 (50%) · 1 win

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 13.5% of 2,215 runs since Jan 2008 (251 horses).

Weakest on standard (aw) going: 10.3% from 155.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm601016.7%+3.2—
Good6248012.8%−0.70 from 2
Good to Soft4625010.8%−2.71 from 5
Soft65310215.6%+2.11 from 12
Heavy2614115.7%+2.22 from 6
Standard (AW)1551610.3%−3.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f200%−13.5—
6f – 7f6346.3%−7.2—
1m – 1m1f961010.4%−3.1—
1m2f – 1m4f1461812.3%−1.2—
1m5f – 2m6639213.9%+0.41 from 11
2m1f – 2m4f73910514.2%+0.73 from 12
2m5f – 3m4265713.4%−0.10 from 2
Over 3m801316.3%+2.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 18 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Dalarna (GER) (Dashing Blade)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Desiderata (GER)60——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 12 1 8% −7.00
Heavy 6 2 33% +6.50
Good to Soft 5 1 20% +1.50
Good 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Fairyhouse 10 3 30% +7.50
Limerick 2 0 0% −2.00
Down Royal 2 1 50% +4.50
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Clonmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00
Newcastle 1 0 0% −1.00
Musselburgh 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 12 3 25% +5.00
1m5f – 2m 11 1 9% −4.00
2m5f – 3m 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Donagh Meyler 12 3 25% +6.50
Ben Harvey 5 0 0% −5.00
Danny Mullins 2 0 0% −2.00
Danny Gilligan 2 1 50% +3.50
Aileen O'Sullivan 1 0 0% −1.00
Gavin Brouder 1 0 0% −1.00
Daniel King 1 0 0% −1.00
Jack Hogan 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 12 0 0% −12.00
Tongue tie 12 4 33% +12.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2026 1 0 0% −1.00
2025 6 2 33% +5.50
2024 7 1 14% −1.50
2023 6 1 17% +1.00
2022 5 0 0% −5.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 14 2 14% −1.50
Chase 11 2 18% +0.50

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
15 Jan 26+15d Fairyhouse Jump Into January Handicap Chase 21f · Soft · 14 ran Sat close up early - disputing 2nd by halfway - still holding a good position when clipped heels and came down 3 out F/14 — 11-9 107—— Ben Harvey 28/1
31 Dec 25+24d Punchestown Tote Guarantee, Never Beaten By SP Handicap Chase 19.5f · Yielding To Soft · 16 ran Held up towards the back - still 16th after 8th - lost a little touch three out - dropped away before two out and beaten well home 15/16 nk 11-1 10929C101C Ben Harvey 50/1
07 Dec 25+229d Cork BAR 1 Betting Handicap Hurdle 20f · Soft To Heavy · 24 ran Sat close to the pace early - fifth at the midpoint - small error at the 7th - held no more improvement into the straight and dropped away steadily 20/24 7½ 11-10 10678C103C Ben Harvey 66/1
22 Apr 25+21d Fairyhouse Fairyhouse Racecourse Ladies National Handicap Chase 21f · Soft · 12 ran Handy early - hit front from 8th before losing advantage soon after - dropped towards back and lost jockey 5 out UR/12 — 9-13 110—— Aileen O'Sullivan 12/1
01 Apr 25+66d Limerick Limerick Races On Facebook Handicap Chase 18f · Good · 6 ran Settled around midpack early - briefly up to 4th before slipping backwards - recovered to 5th with 3 to jump - unable to close in that spot before 2 out - held no more late and finished 5th 5/6 hd 11-2 11090A102B Donagh Meyler 3/1
25 Jan 25+4d Fairyhouse SBK Handicap Chase 17f · Soft · 10 ran Sat handy behind the pace early - held position through the first two fences - dropped to 5th after the fifth - moved into 4th before the eighth - reeled in the front-runner 4 out - hit the front after 2 out - edged clear approaching the last and kept on under pressure to score 1/10 10-9 96—119A Donagh Meyler 4/1
21 Jan 25+37d Down Royal Aspall Handicap Chase (0-100) 20.5f · Good To Yielding · 8 ran Held up in 3rd early - improved into contention by halfway - shared the advantage 3f out before hitting the front 2f out - pushed along approaching the last - stayed on strongly to the line 1/8 11-10 96—124B Donagh Meyler 11/2
15 Dec 24+12d Navan Irish Stallion Farms EBF Handicap Chase (0-116) 20.5f · Yielding · 12 ran Settled towards the back early - still down the field at halfway - found some headway three out - unable to make further gains two out - stayed on same speed to finish well beaten 5/12 1½ 10-10 9851C88C Danny Mullins 11/1
03 Dec 24+233d Clonmel Next Race Meeting January 9th Novice Handicap Chase 18.5f · Yielding · 12 ran Held up at the back - pushed along in the closing stages but never threatened the leaders - well held in 11th 11/12 4½ 10-8 9850C90C Ben Harvey 18/1
14 Apr 24+13d Down Royal Fibrus Total Home Wi-Fi Handicap Chase (0-102) 20f · Yielding · 16 ran 2/16 hd 11-4 9271B118A Donagh Meyler 9/1
01 Apr 24+54d Fairyhouse Farmhouse Foods Novice Handicap Hurdle 16f · Soft To Heavy · 18 ran PU/18 — 10-11 108—— Ben Harvey 28/1
07 Feb 24+13d Fairyhouse Book Your Advanced Tickets Now Rated Novice Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 7 ran 4/7 13 10-13 10898A96A Danny Gilligan 5/1
25 Jan 24+24d Gowran Park Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-123) 16f · Heavy · 7 ran 3/7 10 11-1 10893A109B Gavin Brouder 7/2
01 Jan 24+16d Fairyhouse Tote+ Pays You More At Tote.ie Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 20.5f · Heavy · 16 ran 1/16 11-0 9999B122A Danny Gilligan 9/2
16 Dec 23+70d Fairyhouse Happy Christmas From All At Fairyhouse Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 16f · Heavy · 12 ran 1/12 10-13 9183A119A Donagh Meyler 6/1
07 Oct 23+95d Fairyhouse Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 16f · Soft · 15 ran 8/15 25 11-12 9351C76C Daniel King 8/1
04 Jul 23+87d Tipperary Jim Ryan Racecourse Services Handicap Chase (0-102) (Div 2) 19.5f · Good To Yielding · 16 ran PU/16 — 11-7 94—— Donagh Meyler 18/1
08 Apr 23+67d Carlisle Racing Tv Profits Returned To Racing Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 17f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 10/11 2½ 11-4 9994C91C Jack Hogan 13/2
31 Jan 23+30d Newcastle QuinnBet Quarterback Handicap Chase Class 5 · 16.5f · Soft · 11 ran 4/11 1¾ 12-0 100—120A Donagh Meyler 7/2F
01 Jan 23+41d Fairyhouse Fairyhouse Membership 2023 Handicap Hurdle 16f · Soft · 11 ran 3/11 ¾ 10-8 9161A112A Danny Mullins 11/1
21 Nov 22+228d Musselburgh Sponsor The Saltire For A Day Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 5/5 2¼ 11-2 10170C95B Donagh Meyler 8/1
07 Apr 22+31d Limerick MJ Finnegan's Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 16f · Good · 17 ran 14/17 6½ 11-4 9270C80C Donagh Meyler 66/1
07 Mar 22+23d Leopardstown Happy 90th Birthday Michael Louis Maiden Hurdle (Div 2) 16f · Yielding · 11 ran 8/11 3½ 11-12 —57C88C Donagh Meyler 250/1
12 Feb 22+14d Naas Cavan Developments Supporting Kill GAA Maiden Hurdle (Div 1) 15.5f · Soft · 25 ran 15/25 nk 11-12 ——105C Donagh Meyler 250/1
29 Jan 22 Fairyhouse BetVictor Proud To Support Irish Racing Maiden Hurdle (Div 2) 16f · Good To Yielding · 17 ran 14/17 25 12-0 —34C103C Donagh Meyler 150/1

Quick answers

How many races has Don't Talk (GER) won?
Don't Talk (GER) won 4 of 25 archived starts between 2022 and 2026, a strike rate of 16%. Placed 6 times in total (24% of starts).
Who trains Don't Talk (GER)?
Don't Talk (GER) is trained by Karl Thornton, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 15 January 2026.
Who is Don't Talk (GER)'s sire?
Don't Talk (GER) is by Jukebox Jury (IRE) out of Dalarna (GER), whose sire is Dashing Blade.
What going does Don't Talk (GER) prefer?
Don't Talk (GER) has the best record on heavy going: 2 wins from 6 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Don't Talk (GER)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 107, from the run on 15 January 2026. The highest on record is 110.
What is Don't Talk (GER)'s sire's record?
Jukebox Jury (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.5% of 2,215 runs since Jan 2008 (251 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 10.3% from 155.
Who are Don't Talk (GER)'s siblings?
Out of Dalarna (GER), Don't Talk (GER) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from January 2022. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.