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Horse profile

Don't Tell Dougie (GB)

4yo gelding · Trainer John Dawson · Owner Mrs John Dawson
by Planteur (IRE) out of Persian Forest (GB) (Presenting (GB))
3 runs · 3 courses · from Mar 2026
As at 13 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
Last run 1 Nov 2026 · 5th of 8
KTB Profile

Don't Tell Dougie is a gelding by Planteur out of a Presenting mare who is yet to win from three starts on turf. His best effort came when fourth of six at Doncaster in Mar 2026. He finished fifth of eight, having been held, at Carlisle in a Class 3 novices hurdle in Nov 2026. He has raced on good to soft and good ground over trips from 1m5f to 2m4f.

Based on 3 archived runs · run-style from 3 commented runs since Mar 2026 · updated 13 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 106 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Carlisle, 1 Nov 2026

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 106A · median 90
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 13 Nov 2025
Good to Soft2106A982 runs · 106 / 98
Good1——1 run · —
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 13 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m290A882 runs · 90 / 88
2m1f – 2m4f1——1 run · —

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 9 Nov 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 106B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Carlisle, 1 Nov 2026

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 106B · median 96
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 13 Nov 2025
Good to Soft2106B1012 runs · 106 / 101
Good1——1 run · —
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 13 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m296C91.52 runs · 96 / 91.5
2m1f – 2m4f1——1 run · —

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 9 Nov 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 3 analysed runs since Mar 2026

  • Prominent 2 (67%) · 0 wins
  • Held up 1 (33%) · 0 wins

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Planteur (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.4% of 1,539 runs since Apr 2017 (165 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3266.7%+58.3—
Good to Firm4237.1%−1.3—
Good232187.8%−0.60 from 1
Good to Soft2272310.1%+1.70 from 2
Soft327257.6%−0.8—
Heavy1892111.1%+2.7—
Standard (AW)519387.3%−1.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1915.3%−3.1—
6f – 7f264197.2%−1.2—
1m – 1m1f380328.4%0—
1m2f – 1m4f315206.3%−2.1—
1m5f – 2m266259.4%+10 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f2512811.2%+2.80 from 1
2m5f – 3m3825.3%−3.1—
Over 3m6350%+41.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2017 · as at 13 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Persian Forest (GB) (Presenting (GB))

9 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Restandbethankful (GB) (7 wins).

The wins came over 1m7½f–2m4f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Persian Time (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Restandbethankful (GB)5672m–2m3fClass 3
Persian Time (GB)1431m7½f–2m2fClass 2
Little Jack (GB)1412m1½fClass 5
Thermusa (GB)212m4fClass 4
Miss Ocean (GB)10——
Talysh (GB)70——
Persian Willow (GB)30——
Franchel (GB)10——
Honour Me (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00
Kelso 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Conor O'Farrell 1 0 0% −1.00
Callum Bewley 1 0 0% −1.00
Brian Hughes 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2026 · 3 runs
01 Nov 26+213d Carlisle Pricedup Now With Best Odds Guaranteed Novices' Hurdle Race (gbb Race) Class 3 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 8 ran Settled at back of the field - pushed along before 3 out then made slight ground 2 out - faded on run-in to finish 5th 5/8 9½ 10-13 106A106B Conor O'Farrell 100/1
02 Apr 26+20d Kelso Racing TV Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m · Good · 6 ran Held up handy in the pack - pushed along and dropped away 3f out - faded fast approaching the final furlong - finished well held in 5th 5/6 11 10-9 86B87C Callum Bewley 20/1
13 Mar 26 Doncaster Virgin Bet 'Junior' NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m½f · Good To Soft · 6 ran Sat close to the pace - pushed along and lost touch 3f out - responded to finish up fourth 4/6 7 11-2 90A96C Brian Hughes 9/2

Quick answers

How many races has Don't Tell Dougie won?
Don't Tell Dougie (GB) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2026.
Who trains Don't Tell Dougie?
Don't Tell Dougie (GB) is trained by John Dawson, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 1 November 2026.
Who is Don't Tell Dougie's sire?
Don't Tell Dougie (GB) is by Planteur (IRE) out of Persian Forest (GB), whose sire is Presenting (GB).
What is Don't Tell Dougie's sire's record?
Planteur (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.4% of 1,539 runs since Apr 2017 (165 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Don't Tell Dougie's siblings?
Out of Persian Forest (GB), Don't Tell Dougie (GB) has 9 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Restandbethankful (GB) (7). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Persian Time (GB)). The wins came over 1m7½f–2m4f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from March 2026. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.