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Horse profile

Elusive John (IRE)

3yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2017) · Last trainer E McNamara · Last owner John Donald
by Elusive Pimpernel (USA) out of Joyful Spirit (IRE) (Invincible Spirit)
6 runs · 6 courses · from Aug 2016
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 14 Aug 2017 — 3,354 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2017 · 9th of 10
KTB Profile

Elusive John (IRE) is yet to win from 6 starts.

Based on 6 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown
Flat 4 figures · best 74C · median 45
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good1———
Good to Firm1———
Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f274C66—
6f – 7f232C10.5—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 77C the best of the last 1 rated run · Ballinrobe, 14 Aug 2017

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 51C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Limerick, 8 Oct 2016 Official rating 45 at the last flat run, 8 Jul 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown
Flat 5 figures · best 51C · median 39
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good247C35.5—
Good to Firm1———
Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f239C31.5—
6f – 7f251C43—
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 6 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 7.6% of 3,122 runs since Jan 2008 (315 horses).

Strongest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 10.6% from 378.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−7.6—
Good to Firm11697.8%+0.20 from 1
Good963889.1%+1.50 from 2
Good to Soft508336.5%−1.1—
Soft891647.2%−0.40 from 2
Heavy394246.1%−1.50 from 1
Standard (AW)248208.1%+0.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2100%−7.6—
6f – 7f208209.6%+20 from 2
1m – 1m1f315288.9%+1.30 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f303155%−2.60 from 2
1m5f – 2m980717.2%−0.4—
2m1f – 2m4f848597%−0.60 from 1
2m5f – 3m3784010.6%+3—
Over 3m6957.2%−0.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Joyful Spirit (IRE) (Invincible Spirit)

3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Craic Eile (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 1m2f–2m1f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Craic Eile (IRE)6222m–2m½f—
Elysian Plains (IRE)921m2f–2m1f—
Elusive Specimen (IRE)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ballinrobe 1 0 0% −1.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Listowel 1 0 0% −1.00
Curragh (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
6f – 7f 2 0 0% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Emmet McNamara 2 0 0% −2.00
B J Foley 1 0 0% −1.00
Sean Davis 1 0 0% −1.00
Robbie Downey 1 0 0% −1.00
Gary Carroll 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 4 0 0% −4.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 3 0 0% −3.00
2016 3 0 0% −3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 5 0 0% −5.00
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
14 Aug 17+37d Ballinrobe J.j. Burke Peugeot 3-y-o Maiden Hurdle 17.5f · Yielding · 10 ran 9/10 8½ 10-5 —14C77C B J Foley 66/1
08 Jul 17+49d Naas J F Dunne Insurances 40 Year Celebration Handicap (45-65) 10f · Good · 16 ran 16/16 8 8-4 4558C24C Sean Davis 50/1
20 May 17+224d Navan navanadventuresports.ie And Multiactivity Park Handicap (45-65) 10f · Good To Firm · 22 ran 20/22 1 8-9 4574C39C Robbie Downey 33/1
08 Oct 16+22d Limerick Book Online At www.limerickraces.ie Maiden (Plus 10) 7f · Soft · 8 ran 8/8 9½ 9-5 —32C51C Gary Carroll 100/1
16 Sep 16+19d Listowel Old Castle Median Auction Maiden (Plus 10) 7f · Soft To Heavy · 9 ran 9/9 15 9-5 —-11C35C Emmet McNamara 10/1
28 Aug 16 Curragh (IRE) Ladbrokes European Breeders Fund (C & G) Maiden (Plus 10 Race) 8f · Good · 11 ran 11/11 3¼ 9-5 ——47C Emmet McNamara 50/1

Quick answers

How many races has Elusive John (IRE) won?
Elusive John (IRE) has yet to win, from 6 archived starts between 2016 and 2017.
Who trained Elusive John (IRE)?
Elusive John (IRE) was trained by E McNamara on the most recent run on record, at Ballinrobe on 14 August 2017.
Who is Elusive John (IRE)'s sire?
Elusive John (IRE) is by Elusive Pimpernel (USA) out of Joyful Spirit (IRE), whose sire is Invincible Spirit.
What is Elusive John (IRE)'s official rating?
Elusive John (IRE)'s highest official rating on record is 45.
What is Elusive John (IRE)'s sire's record?
Elusive Pimpernel (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.6% of 3,122 runs since Jan 2008 (315 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 10.6% from 378.
Who are Elusive John (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Joyful Spirit (IRE), Elusive John (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Craic Eile (IRE) (2). The wins came over 1m2f–2m1f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from August 2016. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.