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Horse profile

English Bay (GB)

5yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2008) · Last trainer Ben Pollock · Last owner Robin J W Hall
by Commanche Run (GB) out of Strong Attraction (GB) (Strong Gale)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Nov 2007
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 11 Nov 2008 — 6,567 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2008 · 7th of 9
KTB Profile

English Bay (GB) is yet to win from 3 starts.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 91C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Lingfield, 11 Nov 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 91C · median 85.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Heavy291C85.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f1———
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 3 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Commanche Run (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.3% of 384 runs since Jan 2008 (50 horses).

Strongest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 10.4% from 125. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 4% from 101.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−7.3—
Good to Firm4424.5%−2.80 from 1
Good10376.8%−0.5—
Good to Soft7379.6%+2.3—
Soft9788.2%+0.9—
Heavy5946.8%−0.50 from 2
Standard (AW)600%−7.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f100%−7.3—
1m2f – 1m4f200%−7.3—
1m5f – 2m10144%−3.30 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f9577.4%+0.10 from 2
2m5f – 3m1251310.4%+3.1—
Over 3m6046.7%−0.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Strong Attraction (GB) (Strong Gale)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Marino Gale (GB)40——
Draconian (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Lingfield 1 0 0% −1.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Tom Messenger 2 0 0% −2.00
Andrew Thornton 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 2 0 0% −2.00
2007 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2008 · 2 runs
11 Nov 08+305d Lingfield E.B.F. 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle (Qualifier) Class 4 · 2m1½f · Heavy · 9 ran 7/9 30 10-12 91C Andrew Thornton 66/1
11 Jan 08+70d Huntingdon EBF Carole Bull Communications 'NH' Novices' Hurdle (Qual) Class 4 · 2m · Heavy · 17 ran 17/17 9 11-2 80C Tom Messenger 200/1
2007 · 1 run
02 Nov 07 Uttoxeter keltruck.com 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m4f · Good To Firm · 11 ran PU/11 — 10-9 — Tom Messenger 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has English Bay won?
English Bay (GB) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2007 and 2008.
Who trained English Bay?
English Bay (GB) was trained by Ben Pollock on the most recent run on record, at Lingfield on 11 November 2008.
Who is English Bay's sire?
English Bay (GB) is by Commanche Run (GB) out of Strong Attraction (GB), whose sire is Strong Gale.
What is English Bay's sire's record?
Commanche Run (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.3% of 384 runs since Jan 2008 (50 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 10.4% from 125. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 4% from 101.
Who are English Bay's siblings?
Out of Strong Attraction (GB), English Bay (GB) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from November 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.