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Horse profile

Forbetterorworse (IRE)

5yo mare (at last run, May 2017) · Last trainer S Michael Millar · Last owner Robert James Gault
by Court Cave (IRE) out of Mrs Pharback (IRE) (Presenting)
4 runs · 3 courses · from Jan 2017
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 12 May 2017 — 3,463 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2017 · 9th of 10
KTB Profile

Forbetterorworse (IRE) is yet to win from 4 starts.

Based on 4 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Of 4 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: no standard for this course, surface and code on the window (2) · did not complete (2).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 4 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 52C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Kilbeggan, 12 May 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 2 figures · best 52C · median 50.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Soft1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m1———
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 4 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Court Cave (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 7,953 runs since Aug 2008 (553 horses).

Weakest on heavy going: 6.8% from 937.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−10.1—
Good to Firm2332812%+1.9—
Good3,03234311.3%+1.20 from 1
Good to Soft1,44916111.1%+1—
Soft2,2292049.2%−0.90 from 2
Heavy937646.8%−3.30 from 1
Standard (AW)7134.2%−5.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f2414.2%−5.9—
1m – 1m1f1300%−10.1—
1m2f – 1m4f7111.4%−8.7—
1m5f – 2m1,7911699.4%−0.70 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f2,85629510.3%+0.20 from 2
2m5f – 3m2,52826510.5%+0.4—
Over 3m6707210.7%+0.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Aug 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Mrs Pharback (IRE) (Presenting)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Over Church Road (IRE)110——
Fev Rover (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kilbeggan 2 0 0% −2.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mr R J Gault 2 0 0% −2.00
Barry Browne 1 0 0% −1.00
Ben Dalton 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 2 0 0% −2.00
Hurdle 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 4 runs
12 May 17+21d Kilbeggan www.kilbegganraces.com (Pro/am) Flat Race 2m · Yielding To Soft · 10 ran 9/10 57 11-0 —52C Mr R J Gault 50/1
21 Apr 17+41d Kilbeggan Loughnagore Flat Race 2m3½f · Good · 14 ran 11/14 66 11-0 —49C Mr R J Gault 66/1
11 Mar 17+55d Gowran Park Thomastown Maiden Hurdle 2m · Soft To Heavy · 14 ran PU/14 — 10-12 —— Barry Browne 100/1
15 Jan 17 Fairyhouse Book Easter Festival Tickets Online At fairyhouse.ie Mares Maiden Hurdle 2m2f · Soft · 24 ran RR/24 — 11-5 —— Ben Dalton 100/1

Quick answers

How many races has Forbetterorworse won?
Forbetterorworse (IRE) has yet to win, from 4 archived starts in 2017.
Who trained Forbetterorworse?
Forbetterorworse (IRE) was trained by S Michael Millar on the most recent run on record, at Kilbeggan on 12 May 2017.
Who is Forbetterorworse's sire?
Forbetterorworse (IRE) is by Court Cave (IRE) out of Mrs Pharback (IRE), whose sire is Presenting.
What is Forbetterorworse's sire's record?
Court Cave (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 7,953 runs since Aug 2008 (553 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 6.8% from 937.
Who are Forbetterorworse's siblings?
Out of Mrs Pharback (IRE), Forbetterorworse (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from January 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.