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Horse profile

Forever Song (GB)

3yo colt (at last run, Jun 2017) · Last trainer Charlie Appleby · Last owner Godolphin
by Dubawi (IRE) out of Echoes In Eternity (IRE) (Spinning World)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Apr 2017
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 14 Jun 2017 — 3,422 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2017 · 5th of 14 Beaten favourite LTO
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Apr 2017 and Jun 2017, the last of them as a 3yo colt. Finished 5 of 14 at Kempton (AW) last time. By Dubawi (IRE), whose progeny in our archive have won 18.4% of 12,953 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 90 the best of the last 1 graded (A or B) run · Kempton (AW), 14 Jun 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 2 figures · best 90B · median 70
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f290B70—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 70A the best of the last 2 rated runs · Kempton (AW), 14 Jun 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 2 figures · best 70A · median 64.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f270A64.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 18.4% of 12,953 runs since Jan 2008 (1,525 horses).

Weakest at trips under 6f (all codes): 9.8% from 429.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm481122.9%+4.5—
Good to Firm2,32347720.5%+2.10 from 1
Good3,16656317.8%−0.6—
Good to Soft1,74231017.8%−0.6—
Soft1,90832717.1%−1.3—
Heavy59510317.3%−1.1—
Standard (AW)3,16958518.5%+0.10 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f429429.8%−8.6—
6f – 7f3,12158018.6%+0.2—
1m – 1m1f3,85872618.8%+0.4—
1m2f – 1m4f3,83376920.1%+1.70 from 2
1m5f – 2m1,20918815.6%−2.8—
2m1f – 2m4f3334814.4%−4—
2m5f – 3m1381913.8%−4.6—
Over 3m32618.8%+0.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Echoes In Eternity (IRE) (Spinning World)

5 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Whispering Gallery (GB) (6 wins).

The wins came over 7f–2m4f; the highest grade won is Listed (Whispering Gallery (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Whispering Gallery (GB)1261m1f–2m4fListed
Sound Reflection (USA)837f–1m4fClass 3
Yodelling (USA)527f–1mClass 3
Eavesdropper (GB)311m2fClass 5
Tally Stick (USA)20——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 2 runs
14 Jun 17+53d Kempton (AW) 32red/british Stallion Studs Ebf Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 12f · Standard To Slow · 14 ran 5/14 5 9-5 90B70A James Doyle 7/2F
22 Apr 17 Nottingham Hucknall Sheet Metal 40th Anniversary Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 10f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 9/10 4½ 9-5 50C59C William Buick 7/4J

Quick answers

How many races has Forever Song won?
Forever Song (GB) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2017.
Who trained Forever Song?
Forever Song (GB) was trained by Charlie Appleby on the most recent run on record, at Kempton (AW) on 14 June 2017.
Who is Forever Song's sire?
Forever Song (GB) is by Dubawi (IRE) out of Echoes In Eternity (IRE), whose sire is Spinning World.
What is Forever Song's sire's record?
Dubawi (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 18.4% of 12,953 runs since Jan 2008 (1,525 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest at trips under 6f (all codes): 9.8% from 429.
Who are Forever Song's siblings?
Out of Echoes In Eternity (IRE), Forever Song (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Whispering Gallery (GB) (6). Highest grade won: Listed (Whispering Gallery (GB)). The wins came over 7f–2m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from April 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.