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Forgotten Dreams (IRE)

2yo filly (at last run, Oct 2008) · Last trainer Harry Dunlop · Last owner Prince A A Faisal
by Olden Times (GB) out of Jawaher (IRE) (Dancing Brave)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Oct 2008
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 17 Oct 2008 — 6,584 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2008 · 7th of 13 Beaten favourite LTO
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts, both in Oct 2008, the last of them as a 2yo filly. Finished 7 of 13 at Redcar last time. By Olden Times (GB), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 736 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Forgotten Dreams (IRE) has 5 produce in the archive, 4 winners — most wins Fiesole (GB) (8 wins).

The wins came over 6f–2m; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Fiesole (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Fiesole (GB)4981m2f–2mClass 2
Remember (GB)1336f–7fClass 3
Roundsman (GB)117fClass 5
Recollect (GB)711mClass 4
Beyond Recall (GB)110——

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 54C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Newmarket, 4 Oct 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 2 figures · best 54C · median 52.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
6f – 7f254C52.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Olden Times (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 736 runs since Jan 2008 (67 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 17.6% from 108. Strongest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 13.7% from 117.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3266.7%+57.5—
Good to Firm1081917.6%+8.40 from 1
Good260207.7%−1.50 from 1
Good to Soft80810%+0.8—
Soft9488.5%−0.7—
Heavy3812.6%−6.6—
Standard (AW)153106.5%−2.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f10220%+10.8—
6f – 7f142107%−2.20 from 2
1m – 1m1f166169.6%+0.4—
1m2f – 1m4f1171613.7%+4.5—
1m5f – 2m145106.9%−2.3—
2m1f – 2m4f106109.4%+0.2—
2m5f – 3m4349.3%+0.1—
Over 3m700%−9.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Jawaher (IRE) (Dancing Brave)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
High Approach (IRE)10——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2008 · 2 runs
17 Oct 08+13d Redcar E.B.F. Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div 2) Class 5 · 6f · Good · 13 ran 7/13 1 9-0 51A Neil Callan 2/1F
04 Oct 08 Newmarket Tattersalls Timeform Fillies' 800 Class 2 · 7f · Good To Firm · 16 ran 14/16 7 9-0 54C Steve Drowne 50/1

Quick answers

How many races has Forgotten Dreams won?
Forgotten Dreams (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2008.
Who trained Forgotten Dreams?
Forgotten Dreams (IRE) was trained by Harry Dunlop on the most recent run on record, at Redcar on 17 October 2008.
Who is Forgotten Dreams's sire?
Forgotten Dreams (IRE) is by Olden Times (GB) out of Jawaher (IRE), whose sire is Dancing Brave.
What is Forgotten Dreams's sire's record?
Olden Times (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 736 runs since Jan 2008 (67 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 17.6% from 108. Strongest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 13.7% from 117.
Who are Forgotten Dreams's siblings?
Out of Jawaher (IRE), Forgotten Dreams (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.
Has Forgotten Dreams produced winners?
As a dam, Forgotten Dreams (IRE) has 5 produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Fiesole (GB) (8). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Fiesole (GB)). The wins came over 6f–2m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.