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Horse profile

Grumpy Charley (GB)

8yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2023) · Last trainer Chris Honour · Last owner G Thompson
by Shirocco (GER) out of Whisky Rose (IRE) (Old Vic)
19 runs · 9 courses · from Apr 2019
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 9 Nov 2023 — 1,069 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2023 5 wins · Newbury & Chepstow Last raced off OR 134
KTB Profile

Grumpy Charley (GB) is 5 from 19. Hasn't won since Dec 2022. 3 of 4 starts at Chepstow have ended in wins. Last raced off 134, 9lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 19 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 9lb off peak
Official rating134↓ 9lb off peak
134 129–143

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 136 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Chepstow, 5 Feb 2021

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.

Jumps 13 figures · best 136A · median 95
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Soft5123C86—
Heavy4136A109.5—
Good to Soft3113A95—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m7136A109—
Over 3m281B67—
2m5f – 3m295C88.5—
2m1f – 2m4f2113A88—

Of 19 runs looked at, 6 have no figure: did not complete (3) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (2) · not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 13 figures from 19 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 138B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Newbury, 31 Dec 2022 Official rating 134 at the last run, 9 Nov 2023

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Jumps 14 figures · best 146B · median 127
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Soft6146B131.5—
Heavy4141A134.5—
Good to Soft3115C109—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m8146B131.5—
Over 3m2138B122.5—
2m5f – 3m2132B123.5—
2m1f – 2m4f2109C109—

Of 19 runs looked at, 5 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (5).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 14 figures from 19 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 9,154 runs since Jan 2008 (920 horses).

Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 7.4% from 203.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm15320%+8.8—
Good to Firm343308.7%−2.5—
Good2,72531511.6%+0.40 from 1
Good to Soft1,80521712%+0.80 from 6
Soft2,47025710.4%−0.83 from 6
Heavy1,03012311.9%+0.72 from 6
Standard (AW)766769.9%−1.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2000%−11.2—
6f – 7f203157.4%−3.8—
1m – 1m1f401348.5%−2.7—
1m2f – 1m4f1,0911079.8%−1.4—
1m5f – 2m2,69528310.5%−0.73 from 8
2m1f – 2m4f2,68431511.7%+0.50 from 2
2m5f – 3m1,65622213.4%+2.21 from 4
Over 3m4044511.1%−0.11 from 5

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Whisky Rose (IRE) (Old Vic)

6 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Air Horse One (GB) (5 wins).

The wins came over 2m–3m6½f; the highest grade won is Listed (Misty Whisky (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Air Horse One (GB)3552m1f–2m4fClass 2
One For Rosie (GB)1152m–2m4fClass 3
Rivers Corner (GB)2552m7½f–3m6½fClass 3
Misty Whisky (GB)1242m–2m5fListed
Getawhisky (GB)822m–2m1fClass 2
Falanghina (GB)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 6 0 0% −6.00
Heavy 6 2 33% −2.43
Soft 6 3 50% +17.75
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 1 6 0 0% −6.00
Class 2 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 3 4 3 75% +19.75
Class 4 4 2 50% −0.43
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Newbury 5 2 40% +16.50
Chepstow 4 3 75% +1.82
Cheltenham 3 0 0% −3.00
Haydock 2 0 0% −2.00
Warwick 1 0 0% −1.00
Bangor-on-Dee 1 0 0% −1.00
Aintree 1 0 0% −1.00
Stratford 1 0 0% −1.00
Exeter 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 8 3 38% −2.18
Over 3m 5 1 20% +3.50
2m5f – 3m 4 1 25% +9.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Bryan Carver 13 4 31% +1.32
Tom Scudamore 2 0 0% −2.00
Finn Lambert 1 0 0% −1.00
James Bowen 1 0 0% −1.00
David Noonan 1 1 100% +12.00
Ciaran Gethings 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 18 5 28% +9.32
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2023 3 0 0% −3.00
2022 5 1 20% +3.50
2021 6 4 67% +12.82
2020 3 0 0% −3.00
2019 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 9 2 22% +12.50
Hurdle 7 3 43% −1.18
NH Flat 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
09 Nov 23+264d Newbury Pertemps Network Handicap Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 2 · 24f · Good To Soft · 11 ran F/11 — 11-0 134—— Finn Lambert 50/1
18 Feb 23+35d Haydock Betfred Grand National Trial Handicap Chase (Premier Handicap) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 28.5f · Good To Soft · 14 ran PU/14 — 11-0 140—— Bryan Carver 12/1
14 Jan 23+14d Warwick Wigley Group Classic Handicap Chase (Premier Handicap) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 29f · Heavy · 13 ran PU/13 — 11-4 141—— James Bowen 11/2
31 Dec 22+52d Newbury Coral Racing Club Mandarin Handicap Chase Class 3 · 26f · Soft · 13 ran 1/13 12-0 13581B138B Bryan Carver 15/2
09 Nov 22+214d Bangor-on-Dee Paul Ferguson Jumpers To Follow Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 24f · Heavy · 12 ran PU/12 — 11-5 138—— Bryan Carver 7/1
09 Apr 22+25d Aintree Betway Handicap Chase (Grade 3) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 25f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 7/14 28 10-11 14053C107C Bryan Carver 16/1
15 Mar 22+31d Cheltenham Ultima Handicap Chase (Grade 3) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 25f · Good To Soft · 24 ran PU/24 — 10-1 142—— Bryan Carver 16/1
12 Feb 22+45d Newbury Betfair Cheltenham Roarcast Novices' Limited Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 3 · 23.5f · Good To Soft · 4 ran 3/4 2½ 10-3 14395C115C Bryan Carver 7/2
29 Dec 21+81d Newbury MansionBet Proud To Support British Racing Novices' Limited Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 3 · 22.5f · Soft · 7 ran 1/7 11-3 13782A132B David Noonan 12/1
09 Oct 21+207d Chepstow Dunraven Windows Novices' Chase (Listed) (For The Robert Mottram Memorial Trophy) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 19.5f · Good · 5 ran 5/5 44 11-3 14163C109C Bryan Carver 9/1
16 Mar 21+19d Cheltenham Sky Bet Supreme Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 16.5f · Soft · 8 ran 6/8 1½ 11-7 14386C123C Bryan Carver 28/1
25 Feb 21+20d Chepstow Pertemps Industrial Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 16f · Soft · 5 ran 1/5 11-9 132123C146B Bryan Carver 5/4
05 Feb 21+16d Chepstow Free Horse Racing Tips At tipstersempire.co.uk EBF 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 16f · Heavy · 11 ran 1/11 11-7 129136A141A Bryan Carver EvensF
20 Jan 21+22d Chepstow Providers Of Man Power Silvershine Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 16f · Heavy · 12 ran 1/12 11-1 —124B137A Bryan Carver 4/7F
29 Dec 20+27d Newbury MansionBet App 'Introductory' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 16.5f · Soft · 12 ran 5/12 nse 11-5 —109A131A Ciaran Gethings 6/1
02 Dec 20+268d Haydock Listen To Weighed-In On Betfair 'Introductory' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 2 · 15.5f · Heavy · 5 ran 2/5 4¾ 11-0 —80C132B Bryan Carver 33/1
09 Mar 20+135d Stratford Play Low6 Picks On The Low6 App Maiden Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 16.5f · Soft · 10 ran 9/10 9 11-4 ——96A Tom Scudamore 3/1F
26 Oct 19+193d Cheltenham Royal Gloucestershire Hussars Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 2 · 16.5f · Heavy · 15 ran 6/15 ½ 11-0 —95C119A Tom Scudamore 9/1
16 Apr 19 Exeter Introducing Racing TV P2P Bumper Maiden NH Flat Race (Amateurs) Class 4 · 17f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 3/11 3¾ 11-0 —113A109A Bryan Carver 10/3

Quick answers

How many races has Grumpy Charley (GB) won?
Grumpy Charley (GB) won 5 of 19 archived starts between 2019 and 2023, a strike rate of 26.3%. Placed 7 times in total (36.8% of starts).
Who trained Grumpy Charley (GB)?
Grumpy Charley (GB) was trained by Chris Honour on the most recent run on record, at Newbury on 9 November 2023.
Who is Grumpy Charley (GB)'s sire?
Grumpy Charley (GB) is by Shirocco (GER) out of Whisky Rose (IRE), whose sire is Old Vic.
What going does Grumpy Charley (GB) prefer?
Grumpy Charley (GB) has the best record on soft going: 3 wins from 6 starts (50%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Grumpy Charley (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 134, from the run on 9 November 2023. The highest on record is 143.
What is Grumpy Charley (GB)'s sire's record?
Shirocco (GER)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 9,154 runs since Jan 2008 (920 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 7.4% from 203.
Who are Grumpy Charley (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Whisky Rose (IRE), Grumpy Charley (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Air Horse One (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Listed (Misty Whisky (GB)). The wins came over 2m–3m6½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from April 2019. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.