I Say (IRE)
I Say (IRE) is 1 from 4, the win coming at Class 5 level. Hasn't won since Jul 2013.
Progeny in our archive
As a dam, I Say (IRE) has 3 produce in the archive, 2 winners — most wins Nelson River (GB) (5 wins).
The wins came over 1m4f–2m4½f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Nelson River (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nelson River (GB) | 42 | 5 | 1m4f–2m1f | Class 2 |
| Say Nothing (GB) | 34 | 1 | 2m4½f | Class 4 |
| Isayalittleprayer (GB) | 13 | 0 | — | — |
- 1–4Wins / Runs
- 25%Strike rate
- 2 (50%)Placed
- −2.64£1 level staken=4 at SP
- 79Highest OR
- 109dAvg between runs
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 10.6% of 5,063 runs since Jan 2008 (370 horses).
Weakest on good to soft going: 7.3% from 455.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 44 | 7 | 15.9% | +5.3 | — |
| Good to Firm | 870 | 86 | 9.9% | −0.7 | — |
| Good | 1,010 | 92 | 9.1% | −1.5 | 0 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 455 | 33 | 7.3% | −3.3 | — |
| Soft | 702 | 76 | 10.8% | +0.2 | 1 from 1 |
| Heavy | 215 | 21 | 9.8% | −0.8 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 1,765 | 220 | 12.5% | +1.9 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 79 | 10 | 12.7% | +2.1 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 1,350 | 136 | 10.1% | −0.5 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,505 | 176 | 11.7% | +1.1 | 1 from 2 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1,369 | 142 | 10.4% | −0.2 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 545 | 49 | 9% | −1.6 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 168 | 20 | 11.9% | +1.3 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 39 | 1 | 2.6% | −8 | — |
| Over 3m | 8 | 1 | 12.5% | +1.9 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
6 siblings in the archive, 6 winners — best of them Tigrilla (IRE) (2 wins).
The wins came over 6f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Listed (Tigrilla (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tigrilla (IRE) | 9 | 2 | 6f–7f | Listed |
| Notalossonya (IRE) | 7 | 2 | 1m2f–1m4f | — |
| Law Keeper (IRE) | 6 | 1 | 1m1f | Class 5 |
| Wolf Heart (IRE) | 19 | 1 | 1m2f | Class 6 |
| Orliko (IRE) | 13 | 1 | 1m | Class 6 |
| Mordoree (IRE) | 8 | 1 | 1m½f | Class 6 |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 1 | 100% | +0.36 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Class 5 | 1 | 1 | 100% | +0.36 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yarmouth | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ripon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Carlisle | 1 | 1 | 100% | +0.36 |
| Newbury | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 1 | 50% | −0.64 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Phillip Makin | 2 | 1 | 50% | −0.64 |
| Kieren Fallon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Joe Fanning | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 3 | 1 | 33% | −1.64 |
| Cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2013 | 3 | 1 | 33% | −1.64 |
| 2012 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2013 · 3 runs | |||||||||
| 19 Sep 13+33d | Yarmouth | 'Get On' With Dan Hague Fillies' Handicap | 4/5 | 3¾ | 9-2 | 76 | 74B | Kieren Fallon | 5/2 |
| 17 Aug 13+20d | Ripon | British Stallion Studs E.b.f. Fillies' Handicap | 4/7 | 3 | 9-5 | 79 | 75A | Phillip Makin | 5/2F |
| 28 Jul 13+274d | Carlisle | Support Racing Welfare Maiden Stakes | 1/8 | 9-0 | — | 79A | Phillip Makin | 4/11F | |
| 2012 · 1 run | |||||||||
| 27 Oct 12 | Newbury | saxon-gate.com E.B.F. Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Str) | 2/14 | 2¾ | 9-0 | — | 89A | Joe Fanning | 20/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has I Say won?
- I Say (IRE) won 1 of 4 archived starts between 2012 and 2013, a strike rate of 25%. Placed 2 times in total (50% of starts).
- Who trained I Say?
- I Say (IRE) was trained by William Haggas on the most recent run on record, at Yarmouth on 19 September 2013.
- Who is I Say's sire?
- I Say (IRE) is by Oratorio (IRE) out of Lisieux Orchid (IRE), whose sire is Sadler's Wells.
- What is I Say's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 76, from the run on 19 September 2013. The highest on record is 79.
- What is I Say's sire's record?
- Oratorio (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.6% of 5,063 runs since Jan 2008 (370 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 7.3% from 455.
- Who are I Say's siblings?
- Out of Lisieux Orchid (IRE), I Say (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 6 of them winners. Most wins: Tigrilla (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Listed (Tigrilla (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.
- Has I Say produced winners?
- As a dam, I Say (IRE) has 3 produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Nelson River (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Nelson River (GB)). The wins came over 1m4f–2m4½f. As at Oct 2026.