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Idlers Dream (IRE)

4yo filly (at last run, Jul 2017) · Last trainer Damian Joseph English · Last owner Grougha Stables Limited
by Dandy Man (IRE) out of Smart Starprincess (IRE) (Soviet Star)
12 runs · 4 courses · from May 2015
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Jul 2017 — 3,400 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2017 · 11th of 14 Last raced off OR 48
KTB Profile

Idlers Dream (IRE) is yet to win from 12 starts. Best effort: 3rd of 6 at Dundalk (AW) (May 2015). Last raced off 48, 17lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 12 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 17lb off peak
Official rating48↓ 17lb off peak
48 47–65

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 4 figures · best 56C · median 47.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good356C52—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Under 6f356C52—
6f – 7f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 43C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Curragh, 11 Jun 2017 Official rating 48 at the last run, 6 Jul 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 12 figures · best 70A · median 41
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good341A23—
Standard (AW)370A45—
Good to Firm243A34.5—
Good to Soft270A55.5—
Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Under 6f870A36.5—
6f – 7f470A43—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 12 figures from 12 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 14,946 runs since Jan 2008 (930 horses).

Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5.3% from 170.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm921415.2%+6.1—
Good to Firm2,47725610.3%+1.20 from 2
Good3,1672648.3%−0.80 from 3
Good to Soft1,3401098.1%−10 from 2
Soft1,7181367.9%−1.20 from 1
Heavy4745010.5%+1.40 from 1
Standard (AW)5,6785349.4%+0.30 from 3
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f4,43950711.4%+2.30 from 8
6f – 7f7,6346438.4%−0.70 from 4
1m – 1m1f2,0431587.7%−1.4—
1m2f – 1m4f581447.6%−1.5—
1m5f – 2m17095.3%−3.8—
2m1f – 2m4f6623%−6.1—
2m5f – 3m1200%−9.1—
Over 3m100%−9.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Coffeemeanscoffee (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 5f–1m½f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Smart Spender (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Coffeemeanscoffee (IRE)4546f–7fClass 6
Ask Katie (IRE)5437f–1m½f—
Smart Spender (IRE)615fClass 5
Kilruane Shea (IRE)140——
Sweet Fragrance (IRE)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Standard (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Navan 4 0 0% −4.00
Curragh 3 0 0% −3.00
Dundalk (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Bellewstown 2 0 0% −2.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
Under 6f 8 0 0% −8.00
6f – 7f 4 0 0% −4.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Rory Cleary 10 0 0% −10.00
Donagh O'Connor 1 0 0% −1.00
Scott McCullagh 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 11 0 0% −11.00
Hood 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 4 0 0% −4.00
2016 4 0 0% −4.00
2015 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 4 runs
06 Jul 17+25d Bellewstown Guinness Inter Vintners Pub Challenge Race Handicap (45-65) 5f · Good · 14 ran 11/14 6½ 8-13 4852C16C Donagh O'Connor 20/1
11 Jun 17+28d Curragh TRM Excellence In Equine Nutrition Irish European Breeders Fund Fillies Handicap 7f · Soft · 14 ran 14/14 8 8-4 5216C43C Rory Cleary 66/1
14 May 17+20d Curragh Pg Duffy & Sons Citroen Handicap (45-75) 5f · Good · 20 ran 18/20 2½ 7-13 5656C23A Scott McCullagh 40/1
24 Apr 17+324d Navan Follow Navan On Facebook Handicap 5f · Good · 19 ran 17/19 1¼ 9-1 5743C41A Rory Cleary 33/1
2016 · 4 runs
04 Jun 16+7d Curragh Trm Excellence In Equine Nutrition Maiden 6f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 9/11 1¾ 9-0 64—43A Rory Cleary 20/1
28 May 16+10d Navan REA Gunne Property Carrickmacross Maiden (Plus 10) 6f · Good To Yielding · 15 ran 4/15 ½ 9-0 65—70A Rory Cleary 20/1
18 May 16+31d Dundalk (AW) Group Discounts At Dundalk Stadium Maiden 5f · Standard · 10 ran 4/10 ½ 9-0 47—70A Rory Cleary 66/1
17 Apr 16+179d Navan Navan Welcomes Owners Today Handicap (47-70) 6f · Soft To Heavy · 20 ran 16/20 1¼ 8-4 48—36C Rory Cleary 20/1
2015 · 4 runs
21 Oct 15+66d Navan Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Maiden 5f · Good To Yielding · 8 ran 5/8 5 9-0 56—41A Rory Cleary 66/1
16 Aug 15+45d Dundalk (AW) Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Auction Maiden 5f · Standard · 8 ran 7/8 nse 8-7 ——32A Rory Cleary 16/1
02 Jul 15+44d Bellewstown Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Auction Maiden 5f · Good To Firm · 5 ran 4/5 5½ 8-7 ——26B Rory Cleary 8/1
19 May 15 Dundalk (AW) Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Auction Maiden 5f · Standard · 6 ran 3/6 1¼ 8-7 ——45B Rory Cleary 11/1

Quick answers

How many races has Idlers Dream won?
Idlers Dream (IRE) has yet to win, from 12 archived starts between 2015 and 2017.
Who trained Idlers Dream?
Idlers Dream (IRE) was trained by Damian Joseph English on the most recent run on record, at Bellewstown on 6 July 2017.
Who is Idlers Dream's sire?
Idlers Dream (IRE) is by Dandy Man (IRE) out of Smart Starprincess (IRE), whose sire is Soviet Star.
What is Idlers Dream's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 48, from the run on 6 July 2017. The highest on record is 65.
What is Idlers Dream's sire's record?
Dandy Man (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 14,946 runs since Jan 2008 (930 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5.3% from 170.
Who are Idlers Dream's siblings?
Out of Smart Starprincess (IRE), Idlers Dream (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Coffeemeanscoffee (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Smart Spender (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–1m½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2015. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.