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Horse profile

Join Together (IRE)

12yo gelding (at last run, May 2017) · Last trainer Mrs Rose Loxton · Last owner Ian J Fogg Mrs Wendy Fogg
by Old Vic (GB) out of Open Cry (IRE) (Montelimar)
24 runs · 11 courses · from Nov 2010
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 5 May 2017 — 3,456 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2017 · 4th of 17 4 wins · Wincanton, Cheltenham & Chepstow Headgear returns LTO Last raced off OR 114
KTB Profile

Join Together (IRE) is 4 from 24. Hasn't won since Feb 2016. Last raced off 114, 43lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 24 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 43lb off peak
Official rating114↓ 43lb off peak
114 114–157

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 114 the best of the last 2 graded (A or B) runs · Cheltenham, 5 May 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 114B · median 112
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Over 3m2114B112—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 131A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Cheltenham, 5 May 2017 Official rating 114 at the last run, 5 May 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 18 figures · best 145B · median 125
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good6145B126.5—
Good to Soft5130B126—
Heavy3139A120—
Soft3134B126—
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Over 3m10145B124—
2m5f – 3m8134B125—

Of 23 runs looked at, 5 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (5).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 18 figures from 23 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Old Vic (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.7% of 6,916 runs since Jan 2008 (630 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm30413.3%+1.6—
Good to Firm3974411.1%−0.60 from 1
Good1,79724213.5%+1.81 from 10
Good to Soft1,1691159.8%−1.91 from 6
Soft2,05324912.1%+0.41 from 3
Heavy1,44715710.9%−0.81 from 4
Standard (AW)2300%−11.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f400%−11.7—
1m2f – 1m4f2428.3%−3.4—
1m5f – 2m1,49917311.5%−0.2—
2m1f – 2m4f2,24926011.6%−0.1—
2m5f – 3m2,39828411.8%+0.12 from 11
Over 3m7429212.4%+0.72 from 13

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Open Cry (IRE) (Montelimar)

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Le Reve (IRE) (8 wins).

The wins came over 2m–3m5f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Le Reve (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Le Reve (IRE)4282m2½f–3m5fClass 2
First Cry (IRE)1022m5fClass 4
Revasser (IRE)1012mClass 5
Hinxworth (IRE)90——
Lady Milano (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 10 1 10% −6.00
Good to Soft 6 1 17% −1.00
Heavy 4 1 25% −2.47
Soft 3 1 33% −0.75
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 1 8 0 0% −8.00
Class 6 6 1 17% −4.47
Class 4 4 1 25% −1.75
Class 2 4 2 50% +5.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Cheltenham 7 2 29% +2.00
Chepstow 4 1 25% −1.75
Aintree 4 0 0% −4.00
Fontwell 2 0 0% −2.00
Newton Abbot 1 0 0% −1.00
Wincanton 1 1 100% +0.53
Taunton 1 0 0% −1.00
Auteuil (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Ascot 1 0 0% −1.00
Exeter 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
Over 3m 13 2 15% −7.47
2m5f – 3m 11 2 18% −3.75

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Bryony Frost 7 1 14% −5.47
R Walsh 6 2 33% +3.00
Daryl Jacob 4 0 0% −4.00
Ryan Mahon 2 0 0% −2.00
Nick Scholfield 2 1 50% +0.25
Mr Matthew Hampton 1 0 0% −1.00
Harry Derham 1 0 0% −1.00
David Cottin 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 20 4 20% −7.22
Cheekpieces 3 0 0% −3.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 2 0 0% −2.00
2016 6 1 17% −4.47
2013 5 0 0% −5.00
2012 4 0 0% −4.00
2011 5 3 60% +6.25
2010 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 20 3 15% −9.47
Hurdle 4 1 25% −1.75

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
05 May 17+20d Cheltenham Book Now For The McCoy Awards Open Hunters' Chase Class 4 · 32.5f · Good · 17 ran 4/17 2 11-10 114114B131A Bryony Frost 12/1
15 Apr 17+338d Newton Abbot St Austell Brewery Open Hunters' Chase Class 6 · 26f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 4/6 2 11-11 118110A117B Mr Matthew Hampton 9/1
12 May 16+15d Fontwell Pointtopoint.co.uk United Hunts Open Champion Hunters' Chase Class 6 · 27f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 5/11 14 11-11 122—107B Bryony Frost 11/8F
27 Apr 16+34d Cheltenham Cheltenham Challenge Supporting Ccp Open Hunters' Chase Class 4 · 32.5f · Good · 19 ran 2/19 9 11-10 127—134A Bryony Frost 10/1
24 Mar 16+25d Chepstow IKO Open Hunters' Chase Class 6 · 23.5f · Good · 9 ran 4/9 7 11-8 134—107A Bryony Frost 7/2
28 Feb 16+24d Fontwell totetrifecta Foxhunter Trial (Open Hunters' Chase) (For The Whitelaw Challenge Cup) Class 6 · 25.5f · Good To Soft · 5 ran UR/5 — 11-11 134—— Bryony Frost 11/2
04 Feb 16+22d Wincanton Stewart Tory Memorial Open Hunters' Chase (For The Stewart Tory Memorial Challenge Trophy) Class 6 · 25f · Heavy · 6 ran 1/6 11-7 134—120B Bryony Frost 8/15F
13 Jan 16+767d Taunton Geoffrey Bosley 'Tally Ho' Open Hunters' Chase Class 6 · 23f · Heavy · 14 ran 3/14 17 11-7 139—116B Bryony Frost 6/4F
07 Dec 13+34d Aintree Betfred Becher Handicap Chase (Grade 3) Class 1 · 26f · Soft · 22 ran 14/22 20 11-3 146—119C Ryan Mahon 16/1
03 Nov 13+22d Auteuil (FR) Prix La Haye Jousselin (Chase) (5yo+) (Turf) 27.5f · Heavy · 13 ran 6/13 20 10-8 ——— Ryan Mahon 6/1
12 Oct 13+189d Chepstow Follow Us On Twitter At BetVictorRacing Handicap Chase Class 2 · 23.5f · Good · 14 ran 9/14 ½ 11-7 148—114A Harry Derham 33/1
06 Apr 13+35d Aintree John Smith's Grand National Chase (Grade 3 Handicap) Class 1 · 34.5f · Good To Soft · 40 ran 12/40 1½ 11-2 150—126C Daryl Jacob 25/1
02 Mar 13+84d Doncaster William Hill Grimthorpe Chase (Handicap) Class 2 · 26f · Good · 12 ran PU/12 — 11-9 150—— R Walsh 9/2F
08 Dec 12+35d Aintree Betfred Becher Handicap Chase (Listed) Class 1 · 26f · Heavy · 16 ran 2/16 nk 11-4 148—139A Daryl Jacob 5/1
03 Nov 12+204d Ascot United House Gold Cup Handicap Chase (Grade 3) Class 1 · 24f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 7/14 shd 10-11 151—124A Nick Scholfield 13/2
13 Apr 12+30d Aintree John Smith's Mildmay Novices' Chase (Grade 2) Class 1 · 25f · Good · 5 ran 3/5 12 11-4 154—122B Daryl Jacob 9/2
14 Mar 12+95d Cheltenham Rsa Chase (Grade 1) Class 1 · 24.5f · Good · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-4 157—— R Walsh 7/1
10 Dec 11+28d Cheltenham Ryman The Stationer Novices' Chase Class 2 · 25.5f · Good · 5 ran 1/5 11-9 146—145B R Walsh 3/1
12 Nov 11+21d Cheltenham Ultima Frontrunner In It Solutions Novices' Chase Class 2 · 24.5f · Good To Soft · 6 ran 1/6 10-13 ——130B R Walsh 4/1
22 Oct 11+218d Chepstow totequickpick Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 23.5f · Good · 11 ran F/11 — 11-4 ——— Daryl Jacob 11/4F
18 Mar 11+42d Cheltenham Albert Bartlett Novices' Hurdle (Registered As The Spa Novices' Hurdle) (Grade 1) Class 1 · 24f · Good · 18 ran PU/18 — 11-7 140—— R Walsh 8/1
04 Feb 11+55d Chepstow Lindley Catering Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 23.5f · Soft · 10 ran 1/10 10-12 136—134B Nick Scholfield 5/4F
11 Dec 10+39d Cheltenham Albert Bartlett Novices' Hurdle (Registered As The Bristol Novices' Hurdle) (Grade 2) Class 1 · 24f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 2/9 1¼ 11-0 ——128A David Cottin 14/1
02 Nov 10 Exeter toteplacepot 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle (Div 2) Class 3 · 21.5f · Soft · 10 ran 3/10 1¾ 10-12 ——126A R Walsh 10/3

Quick answers

How many races has Join Together (IRE) won?
Join Together (IRE) won 4 of 24 archived starts between 2010 and 2017, a strike rate of 16.7%. Placed 9 times in total (37.5% of starts).
Who trained Join Together (IRE)?
Join Together (IRE) was trained by Mrs Rose Loxton on the most recent run on record, at Cheltenham on 5 May 2017.
Who is Join Together (IRE)'s sire?
Join Together (IRE) is by Old Vic (GB) out of Open Cry (IRE), whose sire is Montelimar.
What going does Join Together (IRE) prefer?
Join Together (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Join Together (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 114, from the run on 5 May 2017. The highest on record is 157.
What is Join Together (IRE)'s sire's record?
Old Vic (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.7% of 6,916 runs since Jan 2008 (630 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Join Together (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Open Cry (IRE), Join Together (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Le Reve (IRE) (8). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Le Reve (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–3m5f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2010. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.