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Horse profile

Lisa Says No (GB)

4yo filly (at last run, Dec 2014) · Last trainer Tony Newcombe · Last owner Nigel Hardy
by Dubai Destination (USA) out of Zuloago (USA) (Stravinsky)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Oct 2014
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 21 Dec 2014 — 4,336 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2014 · 9th of 10
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Oct 2014 and Dec 2014, the last of them as a 4yo filly. Finished 9 of 10 at Lingfield (AW) last time. By Dubai Destination (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 11% of 6,950 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 81C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Worcester, 29 Oct 2014 Official rating 55 at the last run, 29 Oct 2014

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 81C · median 70.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m281C70.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Dubai Destination (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11% of 6,950 runs since Jan 2008 (521 horses).

Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 16.9% from 136.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm43614%+3—
Good to Firm97710811.1%+0.1—
Good1,8111769.7%−1.30 from 1
Good to Soft9099810.8%−0.2—
Soft1,24112810.3%−0.7—
Heavy4925811.8%+0.8—
Standard (AW)1,47719012.9%+1.90 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1362316.9%+5.9—
6f – 7f1,10911810.6%−0.4—
1m – 1m1f1,13912611.1%+0.1—
1m2f – 1m4f1,37716411.9%+0.9—
1m5f – 2m1,37914010.2%−0.80 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f1,00610610.5%−0.5—
2m5f – 3m6576810.4%−0.6—
Over 3m1471912.9%+1.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Zuloago (USA) (Stravinsky)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Three Sons (GB)40——
Langton Bomber (GB)10——

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2014 · 2 runs
21 Dec 14+53d Lingfield (AW) Happy Christmas From Lingfield Park Standard Open NH Flat Race (AWT) Class 6 · 2m · Standard To Slow · 10 ran 9/10 72 10-11 —60C Tom Cannon 100/1
29 Oct 14 Worcester Best GCSE Performance In Worcestershire Mares' Intermediate Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 2m · Good · 16 ran 16/16 85 10-12 5581C Tom Cannon 66/1

Quick answers

How many races has Lisa Says No won?
Lisa Says No (GB) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2014.
Who trained Lisa Says No?
Lisa Says No (GB) was trained by Tony Newcombe on the most recent run on record, at Lingfield (AW) on 21 December 2014.
Who is Lisa Says No's sire?
Lisa Says No (GB) is by Dubai Destination (USA) out of Zuloago (USA), whose sire is Stravinsky.
What is Lisa Says No's official rating?
Lisa Says No (GB)'s highest official rating on record is 55.
What is Lisa Says No's sire's record?
Dubai Destination (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11% of 6,950 runs since Jan 2008 (521 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 16.9% from 136.
Who are Lisa Says No's siblings?
Out of Zuloago (USA), Lisa Says No (GB) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from October 2014. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.