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Horse profile

Logic Way (USA)

5yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2009) · Last trainer Debbie Mountain · Last owner Al Abdulmalik Hassan
by Freud (USA) out of Just a Ginny (USA) (Go For Gin)
4 runs · 4 courses · from Apr 2009
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 19 Sep 2009 — 6,233 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2009 · 16th of 20 Last raced off OR 98
KTB Profile

Logic Way (USA) is yet to win from 4 starts.

Based on 4 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Sep 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 78C the best of the last 3 rated runs · York, 15 May 2009 Official rating 98 at the last run, 19 Sep 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Flat 4 figures · best 78C · median 76.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Good to Firm377A76—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f378C77—
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Freud (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 0% of 4 runs since Jan 2008 (1 horse). A small sample.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm300%00 from 3
Good to Soft100%00 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f100%00 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f300%00 from 3

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Just a Ginny (USA) (Go For Gin)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 1 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
York 1 0 0% −1.00
Chester 1 0 0% −1.00
Newmarket 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Martin Dwyer 2 0 0% −2.00
Norbert Jeanpierre 1 0 0% −1.00
Ahmed Ajtebi 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie + blinkers 3 0 0% −3.00
Tongue tie + visor 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
19 Sep 09+127d Newbury John Smith's Heritage Handicap Class 2 · 10f · Good To Firm · 20 ran 16/20 2¾ 9-9 9877A Norbert Jeanpierre 100/1
15 May 09+8d York Sportingbet.com Jorvik Heritage Handicap Class 2 · 12f · Good To Soft · 18 ran 18/18 17 9-7 10078C Ahmed Ajtebi 66/1
07 May 09+21d Chester Extrabet.com Huxley Stakes (Group 3) Class 1 · 10.5f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 9/9 1¼ 9-0 10076A Martin Dwyer 50/1
16 Apr 09 Newmarket Weatherbys Earl Of Sefton Stakes (Group 3) Class 1 · 9f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 5/7 5 8-12 10071A Martin Dwyer 40/1

Quick answers

How many races has Logic Way (USA) won?
Logic Way (USA) has yet to win, from 4 archived starts in 2009.
Who trained Logic Way (USA)?
Logic Way (USA) was trained by Debbie Mountain on the most recent run on record, at Newbury on 19 September 2009.
Who is Logic Way (USA)'s sire?
Logic Way (USA) is by Freud (USA) out of Just a Ginny (USA), whose sire is Go For Gin.
What is Logic Way (USA)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 98, from the run on 19 September 2009. The highest on record is 100.
What is Logic Way (USA)'s sire's record?
Freud (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 0% of 4 runs since Jan 2008 (1 horse), Flat and jumps together. A small sample.

Record shown from April 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.