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Horse profile

Meetingofthewaters (FR)

5yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2025) · Last trainer Donald McCain · Last owner Birkdale Bloodstock
by Bathyrhon (GER) out of Roselia Rouge (FR) (Bonbon Rose)
4 runs · 2 courses · from Jun 2025
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 5 Sep 2025 — 417 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2025 · 9th of 9 Last raced off OR 87
KTB Profile

Meetingofthewaters (FR) is a gelding who was yet to win from four starts on turf. He ran three times at Bangor-on-Dee and once at Cartmel, all over 1m5f – 2m or 2m1f – 2m4f on good or soft ground, and reached an official rating of 87. His best effort came when fourth of eight at Bangor-on-Dee in Jun 2025. He finished ninth of nine at Bangor-on-Dee in a Class 5 novices handicap hurdle in Sep 2025.

Based on 4 archived runs · run-style from 3 commented runs since Jun 2025 · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 77 the best of the last 1 graded (A or B) run · Cartmel, 21 Jul 2025

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 77A · median 55.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good362C49—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m362C49—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 96B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Cartmel, 21 Jul 2025 Official rating 87 at the last run, 5 Sep 2025

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 96B · median 87
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good390C84—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m390C84—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 3 analysed runs since Jun 2025

  • Held up 2 (67%) · 0 wins
  • Mid-division 1 (33%) · 0 wins

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Bathyrhon (GER)

Progeny in our archive have won 12.3% of 1,172 runs since Jan 2008 (187 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm19210.5%−1.8—
Good2192310.5%−1.80 from 3
Good to Soft1982713.6%+1.3—
Soft3884611.9%−0.40 from 1
Heavy3054314.1%+1.8—
Standard (AW)3937.7%−4.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f1400%−12.3—
1m2f – 1m4f8567.1%−5.2—
1m5f – 2m2603714.2%+1.90 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f6208012.9%+0.60 from 1
2m5f – 3m169169.5%−2.8—
Over 3m24520.8%+8.5—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Roselia Rouge (FR) (Bonbon Rose)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Deja Rouge (FR)140——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Bangor-on-Dee 3 0 0% −3.00
Cartmel 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Theo Gillard 3 0 0% −3.00
William Maggs 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2025 · 4 runs
05 Sep 25+46d Bangor-on-Dee Genesis Wealth Management Novices' Limited Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 16.5f · Good · 9 ran Settled in the pack early - lost touch after 4 out and began to lose ground - well beaten from 2 out home 9/9 7 10-13 8746C68C William Maggs 25/1
21 Jul 25+30d Cartmel Cartmel Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 17f · Soft · 7 ran Held up towards back of field - improved into contention 2 out - pushed along and faded before the last 5/7 7½ 11-4 —77A96B Theo Gillard 66/1
21 Jun 25+15d Bangor-on-Dee Bangor-On-Dee Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 16.5f · Good · 8 ran 6/8 14 11-2 —62C84C Theo Gillard 50/1
06 Jun 25 Bangor-on-Dee Bangor-On-Dee Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 16.5f · Good · 8 ran Settled at the rear early - made progress into contention approaching 2 out - moved up into fourth spot before that point - unable to add to it as those in front pulled clear 4/8 7½ 11-4 —49C90C Theo Gillard 28/1

Quick answers

How many races has Meetingofthewaters won?
Meetingofthewaters (FR) has yet to win, from 4 archived starts in 2025.
Who trained Meetingofthewaters?
Meetingofthewaters (FR) was trained by Donald McCain on the most recent run on record, at Bangor-on-Dee on 5 September 2025.
Who is Meetingofthewaters's sire?
Meetingofthewaters (FR) is by Bathyrhon (GER) out of Roselia Rouge (FR), whose sire is Bonbon Rose.
What is Meetingofthewaters's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 87, from the run on 5 September 2025. That is also the highest on record.
What is Meetingofthewaters's sire's record?
Bathyrhon (GER)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.3% of 1,172 runs since Jan 2008 (187 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Meetingofthewaters's siblings?
Out of Roselia Rouge (FR), Meetingofthewaters (FR) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from June 2025. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.