Musical Shan (IRE)
Musical Shan (IRE) is yet to win from 10 starts.
Progeny in our archive
As a dam, Musical Shan (IRE) has 6 produce in the archive, 1 winner — most wins Will You Win (IRE) (1 win).
The wins came over 2m3½f.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Will You Win (IRE) | 32 | 1 | 2m3½f | — |
| Getzie (IRE) | 7 | 0 | — | — |
| Barbalicious (IRE) | 10 | 0 | — | — |
| Pippa Mo Chroi (IRE) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
| Patsy's Pride (IRE) | 10 | 0 | — | — |
| Get It Back (IRE) | 11 | 0 | — | — |
- 0–10Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −10.00£1 level staken=10 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=10 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 77Highest OR
- 66dBetween runs (median)longest 241 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 9.6% of 4,216 runs since Jan 2008 (387 horses).
Strongest on good to firm going: 14.2% from 520.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 56 | 4 | 7.1% | −2.5 | — |
| Good to Firm | 520 | 74 | 14.2% | +4.6 | — |
| Good | 1,443 | 149 | 10.3% | +0.7 | 0 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 613 | 50 | 8.2% | −1.4 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 941 | 76 | 8.1% | −1.5 | 0 from 4 |
| Heavy | 621 | 50 | 8.1% | −1.5 | 0 from 2 |
| Standard (AW) | 22 | 2 | 9.1% | −0.5 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −9.6 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 13 | 2 | 15.4% | +5.8 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 13 | 0 | 0% | −9.6 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 808 | 78 | 9.7% | +0.1 | 0 from 3 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 1,473 | 146 | 9.9% | +0.3 | 0 from 4 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1,463 | 135 | 9.2% | −0.4 | 0 from 3 |
| Over 3m | 442 | 44 | 10% | +0.4 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
9 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Whatuthink (IRE) (8 wins).
The wins came over 1m6f–2m6f; the highest grade won is Grade 2 (Whatuthink (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Whatuthink (IRE) | 82 | 8 | 1m6f–2m4f | Grade 2 |
| Whodoyouthink (IRE) | 57 | 5 | 2m–2m6f | — |
| Court Knee (IRE) | 16 | 1 | 2m5½f | — |
| Company Coming (IRE) | 13 | 0 | — | — |
| Whodoyouthink I (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Replay Button (IRE) | 7 | 0 | — | — |
| Little Dil (IRE) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
| Unquestionable (IRE) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
| End Zone (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Heavy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Downpatrick | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Navan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sligo | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tralee (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Down Royal | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fairyhouse | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Naas | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Punchestown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| T G M Ryan | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Mr P Cashman | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tommy Treacy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| P A Carberry | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Denis O'Regan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| M O'Connor | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mr P J A Casey | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Tongue tie | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2007 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 2006 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2005 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| NH Flat | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2007 · 5 runs | |||||||||
| 08 Dec 07+118d | Navan | ladbrokes.com Novice Hurdle | PU/28 | — | 11-0 | 74 | — | T G M Ryan | 66/1 |
| 12 Aug 07+30d | Downpatrick | Www.patohare.com Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | 11/12 | 30 | 10-10 | 69 | 74C | T G M Ryan | 14/1 |
| 13 Jul 07+17d | Downpatrick | Ballee Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | 8/15 | 10 | 10-7 | 74 | 86C | P A Carberry | 20/1 |
| 26 Jun 07+31d | Sligo | Albanne Property (QR) Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | 10/16 | 15 | 10-9 | 75 | 68C | Mr P Cashman | 25/1 |
| 26 May 07+241d | Tralee (IRE) | Kingdom Handicap Hurdle | 14/19 | 21 | 10-10 | 77 | 71C | Denis O'Regan | 20/1 |
| 2006 · 4 runs | |||||||||
| 27 Sep 06+25d | Downpatrick | Coca Cola Maiden Hurdle | 12/15 | 5 | 10-13 | — | 73C | Tommy Treacy | 20/1 |
| 02 Sep 06+137d | Down Royal | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle | 11/18 | 2½ | 10-6 | — | 70C | M O'Connor | 25/1 |
| 18 Apr 06+66d | Fairyhouse | Kilbrew Recuperation & Nursing Flat Race | 16/23 | 4 | 11-1 | — | 83C | Mr P J A Casey | 50/1 |
| 11 Feb 06+101d | Naas | New Facilities At Naas Maiden Hurdle | 18/25 | 1½ | 11-7 | — | 85C | Tommy Treacy | 25/1 |
| 2005 · 1 run | |||||||||
| 02 Nov 05 | Punchestown | Punchestown INH Flat Race | 15/17 | 1 | 10-13 | — | 81C | Mr P Cashman | 12/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Musical Shan won?
- Musical Shan (IRE) has yet to win, from 10 archived starts between 2005 and 2007.
- Who trained Musical Shan?
- Musical Shan (IRE) was trained by J A O'Connell on the most recent run on record, at Navan on 8 December 2007.
- Who is Musical Shan's sire?
- Musical Shan (IRE) is by Anshan (GB) out of Glen's Encore (IRE), whose sire is Orchestra.
- What is Musical Shan's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 74, from the run on 8 December 2007. The highest on record is 77.
- What is Musical Shan's sire's record?
- Anshan (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.6% of 4,216 runs since Jan 2008 (387 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 14.2% from 520.
- Who are Musical Shan's siblings?
- Out of Glen's Encore (IRE), Musical Shan (IRE) has 9 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Whatuthink (IRE) (8). Highest grade won: Grade 2 (Whatuthink (IRE)). The wins came over 1m6f–2m6f. As at Nov 2026.
- Has Musical Shan produced winners?
- As a dam, Musical Shan (IRE) has 6 produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Will You Win (IRE) (1). The wins came over 2m3½f. As at Nov 2026.