Never Cry Never (IRE)
Never Cry Never won one of eight starts, the success coming at Dundalk over 6f to 7f on standard going in Nov 2023 off an official rating of 69. All three runs on the all-weather produced that win while he is zero from five on turf. The gelding, who reached a highest official rating of 76, finished 14 of 15 in the Friarstown Stud Handicap at the Curragh in Oct 2024 off a mark of 70.
- 1–8Wins / Runs
- 12.5%Strike rate
- 1 (12.5%)Placed
- −2.50£1 level staken=8 at SP
- 1.79Fair A/E n=8 · 1.46 incl. margin
- 76Highest OR
- 56dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 106
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 21 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 4 | 58C | 52 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 3 | 106A | 92 | — |
| Good | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 21 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 6 | 106A | 75.5 | — |
| Under 6f | 2 | 54C | 52 | — |
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 8 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style from 4 analysed runs since Aug 2024
- Prominent 3 (75%) · 0 wins
- Mid-division 1 (25%) · 0 wins
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,310 runs since Jan 2008 (705 horses).
Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 612. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 16 | 5 | 31.3% | +19.2 | — |
| Good to Firm | 927 | 122 | 13.2% | +1.1 | — |
| Good | 1,489 | 181 | 12.2% | +0.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 612 | 55 | 9% | −3.1 | — |
| Soft | 843 | 109 | 12.9% | +0.8 | 0 from 4 |
| Heavy | 276 | 36 | 13% | +0.9 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 2,147 | 253 | 11.8% | −0.3 | 1 from 3 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 910 | 122 | 13.4% | +1.3 | 0 from 2 |
| 6f – 7f | 3,374 | 437 | 13% | +0.9 | 1 from 6 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,177 | 129 | 11% | −1.1 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 582 | 54 | 9.3% | −2.8 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 185 | 14 | 7.6% | −4.5 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 77 | 5 | 6.5% | −5.6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 5 | 0 | 0% | −12.1 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
9 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Chiricahua (IRE) (4 wins).
The wins came over 5f–3m; the highest grade won is Class 5 (La Cuesta (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chiricahua (IRE) | 23 | 4 | 1m4½f–3m | — |
| Full Moon (IRE) | 14 | 2 | 7f–1m | — |
| Gotomylovely (IRE) | 9 | 2 | 1m–1m1½f | — |
| La Cuesta (IRE) | 11 | 1 | 5f | Class 5 |
| Nevereversaynever (IRE) | 4 | 1 | 5f | — |
| Nobel Duke (IRE) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
| Winter War (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
| Mrs Gorsky (GB) | 8 | 0 | — | — |
| Guerre D'Amour (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 3 | 1 | 33% | +2.50 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Curragh | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Dundalk (AW) | 3 | 1 | 33% | +2.50 |
| Bellewstown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Navan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 6 | 1 | 17% | −0.50 |
| Under 6f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shane Foley | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Andrew Slattery | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| W J Lee | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jack Cleary | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Colin Keane | 1 | 1 | 100% | +4.50 |
| Conor Maxwell | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Blinkers | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| None | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Hood | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 1 | 1 | 100% | +4.50 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2023 | 4 | 1 | 25% | +1.50 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 22 Oct 24+11d | Curragh | Friarstown Stud Handicap Sat close to the pace early pulling hard - pushed along with two furlongs left - dropped away finishing 14th | 14/15 | 1 | 9-4 | 70 | 58C | 54A | Shane Foley | 66/1 |
| 11 Oct 24+9d | Dundalk (AW) | Friday Night Lights At Dundalk Handicap Settled around midfield - driven for effort inside final two furlongs but failed to close - held no more in reserve to finish - eventually well beaten in 12th | 12/14 | 1¼ | 10-0 | 75 | 92B | 75A | W J Lee | 25/1 |
| 02 Oct 24+32d | Bellewstown | Byrne Marquees Handicap Sat close to the front group early - lost touch and slipped back inside final 2f - no headway under pressure and allowed to finish in own time | 7/7 | 7½ | 9-9 | 75 | 50A | 40A | Shane Foley | 9/1 |
| 31 Aug 24+283d | Curragh | Al Basti Equiworld Dubai Apprentice Handicap Sat close to the pace early - slipped into the pack and pushed along from halfway - fell back through the field and could not find more inside final 2f - eventually well held in 14th | 14/17 | nse | 9-13 | 76 | 66C | 72A | Jack Cleary | 14/1 |
| 22 Nov 23+14d | Dundalk (AW) | DKITSU Race Day Maiden | 1/7 | 9-8 | 69 | 106A | 96A | Colin Keane | 9/2 | |
| 08 Nov 23+21d | Dundalk (AW) | Gateway Hotel Dundalk Race & Stay Maiden | 5/10 | shd | 9-8 | — | 85A | 77A | Conor Maxwell | 14/1 |
| 18 Oct 23+25d | Navan | Navan Racing Festival Early Bird Tickets On Sale Now Maiden | 5/15 | 2½ | 9-8 | — | 54C | 81A | Andrew Slattery | 5/1 |
| 23 Sep 23 | Curragh | DMG Media Maiden | 6/10 | 3¼ | 9-8 | — | 49A | 73A | Andrew Slattery | 20/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Never Cry Never (IRE) won?
- Never Cry Never (IRE) won 1 of 8 archived starts between 2023 and 2024, a strike rate of 12.5%. Placed 1 time in total (12.5% of starts).
- Who trained Never Cry Never (IRE)?
- Never Cry Never (IRE) was trained by Gerard O'Leary on the most recent run on record, at Curragh on 22 October 2024.
- Who is Never Cry Never (IRE)'s sire?
- Never Cry Never (IRE) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of Dowager (GB), whose sire is Groom Dancer.
- What going does Never Cry Never (IRE) prefer?
- Never Cry Never (IRE) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Never Cry Never (IRE)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 70, from the run on 22 October 2024. The highest on record is 76.
- What is Never Cry Never (IRE)'s sire's record?
- No Nay Never (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,310 runs since Jan 2008 (705 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 612. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.
- Who are Never Cry Never (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of Dowager (GB), Never Cry Never (IRE) has 9 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Chiricahua (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 5 (La Cuesta (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–3m. As at Oct 2026.