Never No More (IRE)
Never No More (IRE) is 3 from 6, including a Listed win. The biggest win we hold: the Ballylinch Stud 'Red Rocks' 2,000 Guineas Trial Stakes at Leopardstown (Apr 2019). Hasn't won since Apr 2019. Last raced off a career-high mark of 107.
- 3–6Wins / Runs
- 50%Strike rate
- 5 (83.3%)Placed
- +8.07£1 level staken=6 at SP
- 1.89Fair A/E n=6 · 1.60 incl. margin
- 107Highest OR
- 72dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 103
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 3 | 103A | 87 | — |
| Good to Firm | 1 | — | — | — |
| Standard (AW) | 1 | — | — | — |
| Good | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 3 | 109C | 103 | — |
| Under 6f | 3 | 90A | 87 | — |
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 6 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,335 runs since Jan 2008 (707 horses).
Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 612. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 16 | 5 | 31.3% | +19.2 | — |
| Good to Firm | 927 | 122 | 13.2% | +1.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 1,489 | 181 | 12.2% | +0.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 612 | 55 | 9% | −3.1 | — |
| Soft | 845 | 110 | 13% | +0.9 | 2 from 3 |
| Heavy | 285 | 37 | 13% | +0.9 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 2,161 | 256 | 11.8% | −0.3 | 1 from 1 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 911 | 122 | 13.4% | +1.3 | 1 from 3 |
| 6f – 7f | 3,391 | 440 | 13% | +0.9 | 2 from 3 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,183 | 131 | 11.1% | −1 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 583 | 54 | 9.3% | −2.8 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 185 | 14 | 7.6% | −4.5 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 77 | 5 | 6.5% | −5.6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 5 | 0 | 0% | −12.1 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Order Of Thistle (IRE) (2 wins).
The wins came over 2m1f–3m; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Order Of Thistle (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Order Of Thistle (IRE) | 11 | 2 | 2m1f–3m | Class 4 |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 3 | 2 | 67% | +9.50 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 1 | 1 | 100% | +0.57 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 1 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Naas | 2 | 1 | 50% | +7.00 |
| Doncaster | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Leopardstown | 1 | 1 | 100% | +2.50 |
| Navan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Dundalk (AW) | 1 | 1 | 100% | +0.57 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 3 | 2 | 67% | +9.50 |
| Under 6f | 3 | 1 | 33% | −1.43 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Donnacha O'Brien | 4 | 2 | 50% | +6.57 |
| Ryan Moore | 1 | 1 | 100% | +2.50 |
| Seamie Heffernan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2019 | 3 | 2 | 67% | +9.50 |
| 2018 | 3 | 1 | 33% | −1.43 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2019 · 3 runs | ||||||||||
| 14 Sep 19+161d | Doncaster | HIRD Rail Group Park Stakes (Group 2) | 2/5 | 1½ | 9-0 | 107 | 109C | 99B | Donnacha O'Brien | 15/2 |
| 06 Apr 19+13d | Leopardstown | Ballylinch Stud 'Red Rocks' 2,000 Guineas Trial Stakes (Listed) | 1/7 | 9-3 | 107 | 103A | 100A | Ryan Moore | 5/2 | |
| 24 Mar 19+161d | Naas | Naas Racecourse Business Club Madrid Handicap (Premier Handicap) | 1/16 | 9-7 | 97 | 80C | 115A | Donnacha O'Brien | 8/1 | |
| 2018 · 3 runs | ||||||||||
| 14 Oct 18+9d | Navan | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Legacy Stakes (Listed) | 7/9 | shd | 9-3 | — | 87A | 80A | Donnacha O'Brien | EvensF |
| 05 Oct 18+16d | Dundalk (AW) | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Race (Plus 10) | 1/7 | 9-2 | — | 90A | 99A | Donnacha O'Brien | 4/7F | |
| 19 Sep 18 | Naas | Family Fun Day September 30th Maiden (Plus 10) | 2/8 | 3 | 9-5 | — | 76A | 84A | Seamie Heffernan | 7/2 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Never No More won?
- Never No More (IRE) won 3 of 6 archived starts between 2018 and 2019, a strike rate of 50%. Placed 5 times in total (83.3% of starts).
- Who trained Never No More?
- Never No More (IRE) was trained by A P O'Brien on the most recent run on record, at Doncaster on 14 September 2019.
- Who is Never No More's sire?
- Never No More (IRE) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of Law Of The Jungle (IRE), whose sire is Catcher In The Rye.
- What going does Never No More prefer?
- Never No More (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 2 wins from 3 starts (66.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Never No More's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 107, from the run on 14 September 2019. That is also the highest on record.
- What is Never No More's sire's record?
- No Nay Never (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,335 runs since Jan 2008 (707 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 612. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.
- Who are Never No More's siblings?
- Out of Law Of The Jungle (IRE), Never No More (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Order Of Thistle (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Order Of Thistle (IRE)). The wins came over 2m1f–3m. As at Oct 2026.