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Horse profile

Never No More (IRE)

3yo colt (at last run, Sep 2019) · Last trainer A P O'Brien · Last owner Michael Tabor Derrick Smith Mrs John Magnier
by No Nay Never (USA) out of Law Of The Jungle (IRE) (Catcher In The Rye)
6 runs · 5 courses · from Sep 2018
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 14 Sep 2019 — 2,600 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2019 · 2nd of 5 3 wins · Leopardstown, Naas & Dundalk (AW) Last raced off OR 107
KTB Profile

Never No More (IRE) is 3 from 6, including a Listed win. The biggest win we hold: the Ballylinch Stud 'Red Rocks' 2,000 Guineas Trial Stakes at Leopardstown (Apr 2019). Hasn't won since Apr 2019. Last raced off a career-high mark of 107.

Based on 6 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 103 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Leopardstown, 6 Apr 2019

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 6 figures · best 109C · median 88.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft3103A87—
Good to Firm1———
Standard (AW)1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
6f – 7f3109C103—
Under 6f390A87—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 6 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 115A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Naas, 24 Mar 2019 Official rating 107 at the last run, 14 Sep 2019

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 6 figures · best 115A · median 99
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft3115A100—
Good to Firm1———
Standard (AW)1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
6f – 7f3115A100—
Under 6f399A84—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 6 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,335 runs since Jan 2008 (707 horses).

Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 612. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm16531.3%+19.2—
Good to Firm92712213.2%+1.10 from 1
Good1,48918112.2%+0.10 from 1
Good to Soft612559%−3.1—
Soft84511013%+0.92 from 3
Heavy2853713%+0.9—
Standard (AW)2,16125611.8%−0.31 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f91112213.4%+1.31 from 3
6f – 7f3,39144013%+0.92 from 3
1m – 1m1f1,18313111.1%−1—
1m2f – 1m4f583549.3%−2.8—
1m5f – 2m185147.6%−4.5—
2m1f – 2m4f7756.5%−5.6—
2m5f – 3m500%−12.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Law Of The Jungle (IRE) (Catcher In The Rye)

1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Order Of Thistle (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 2m1f–3m; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Order Of Thistle (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Order Of Thistle (IRE)1122m1f–3mClass 4

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 3 2 67% +9.50
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Standard (AW) 1 1 100% +0.57
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 1 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Naas 2 1 50% +7.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 1 100% +2.50
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Dundalk (AW) 1 1 100% +0.57

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 3 2 67% +9.50
Under 6f 3 1 33% −1.43

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Donnacha O'Brien 4 2 50% +6.57
Ryan Moore 1 1 100% +2.50
Seamie Heffernan 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2019 3 2 67% +9.50
2018 3 1 33% −1.43

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2019 · 3 runs
14 Sep 19+161d Doncaster HIRD Rail Group Park Stakes (Group 2) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Firm · 5 ran 2/5 1½ 9-0 107109C99B Donnacha O'Brien 15/2
06 Apr 19+13d Leopardstown Ballylinch Stud 'Red Rocks' 2,000 Guineas Trial Stakes (Listed) 7f · Soft · 7 ran 1/7 9-3 107103A100A Ryan Moore 5/2
24 Mar 19+161d Naas Naas Racecourse Business Club Madrid Handicap (Premier Handicap) 7f · Yielding To Soft · 16 ran 1/16 9-7 9780C115A Donnacha O'Brien 8/1
2018 · 3 runs
14 Oct 18+9d Navan Irish Stallion Farms EBF Legacy Stakes (Listed) 5.5f · Yielding · 9 ran 7/9 shd 9-3 —87A80A Donnacha O'Brien EvensF
05 Oct 18+16d Dundalk (AW) Irish Stallion Farms EBF Race (Plus 10) 5f · Standard · 7 ran 1/7 9-2 —90A99A Donnacha O'Brien 4/7F
19 Sep 18 Naas Family Fun Day September 30th Maiden (Plus 10) 5f · Good · 8 ran 2/8 3 9-5 —76A84A Seamie Heffernan 7/2

Quick answers

How many races has Never No More won?
Never No More (IRE) won 3 of 6 archived starts between 2018 and 2019, a strike rate of 50%. Placed 5 times in total (83.3% of starts).
Who trained Never No More?
Never No More (IRE) was trained by A P O'Brien on the most recent run on record, at Doncaster on 14 September 2019.
Who is Never No More's sire?
Never No More (IRE) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of Law Of The Jungle (IRE), whose sire is Catcher In The Rye.
What going does Never No More prefer?
Never No More (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 2 wins from 3 starts (66.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Never No More's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 107, from the run on 14 September 2019. That is also the highest on record.
What is Never No More's sire's record?
No Nay Never (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,335 runs since Jan 2008 (707 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 612. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.
Who are Never No More's siblings?
Out of Law Of The Jungle (IRE), Never No More (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Order Of Thistle (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Order Of Thistle (IRE)). The wins came over 2m1f–3m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from September 2018. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.