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Horse profile

Never You Mind (IRE)

3yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2017) · Last trainer Charles Hills · Last owner N N Browne John Bodie Paul Mcnamara
by Bated Breath (GB) out of Bimini (GB) (Sadler's Wells)
4 runs · 4 courses · from Apr 2017
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 1 Jul 2017 — 3,399 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2017 · 16th of 16 Last raced off OR 58
KTB Profile

Never You Mind (IRE) is yet to win from 4 starts.

Based on 4 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 69 the best of the last 2 graded (A or B) runs · Newmarket, 18 Apr 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 4 figures · best 69A · median 57
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good267A24.5—
Good to Firm269A58—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
6f – 7f369A67—
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 53A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Newmarket, 18 Apr 2017 Official rating 58 at the last run, 1 Jul 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 4 figures · best 53A · median 50.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good251A46.5—
Good to Firm253A51.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
6f – 7f353A51—
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 10.8% of 8,133 runs since Jan 2008 (670 horses).

Weakest on soft going: 7.7% from 846.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm34720.6%+9.8—
Good to Firm1,29414911.5%+0.70 from 2
Good1,67020112%+1.20 from 2
Good to Soft8128110%−0.8—
Soft846657.7%−3.1—
Heavy262218%−2.8—
Standard (AW)3,21535110.9%+0.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1,02211811.5%+0.7—
6f – 7f4,04647111.6%+0.80 from 3
1m – 1m1f1,8681789.5%−1.30 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f874819.3%−1.5—
1m5f – 2m256259.8%−1—
2m1f – 2m4f6011.7%−9.1—
2m5f – 3m7114.3%+3.5—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Bimini (GB) (Sadler's Wells)

2 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Rocket Ship (GB) (2 wins).

The wins came over 1m–1m4f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Rocket Ship (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Rocket Ship (GB)821m4fClass 3
Kings Highway (IRE)721mClass 4

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 6 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Lingfield 1 0 0% −1.00
Newmarket 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Oisin Murphy 1 0 0% −1.00
Callum Shepherd 1 0 0% −1.00
David Probert 1 0 0% −1.00
Richard Kingscote 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
01 Jul 17+74d Lingfield John And Joan Goodall Memorial Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Good · 16 ran 16/16 49 8-13 58-18C42C Oisin Murphy 6/1
18 Apr 17+6d Newmarket Alex Scott Maiden Stakes (Plus 10) Class 4 · 7f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 7/9 6 8-11 —69A53A Callum Shepherd 100/1
12 Apr 17+10d Nottingham toteplacepot Six Places In Six Races Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 8.5f · Good To Firm · 16 ran 15/16 3¼ 9-5 —47C50C David Probert 50/1
02 Apr 17 Doncaster Purple Vouchers Maiden Stakes (Div 2) Class 5 · 7f · Good · 11 ran 7/11 2¼ 9-5 —67A51A Richard Kingscote 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Never You Mind (IRE) won?
Never You Mind (IRE) has yet to win, from 4 archived starts in 2017.
Who trained Never You Mind (IRE)?
Never You Mind (IRE) was trained by Charles Hills on the most recent run on record, at Lingfield on 1 July 2017.
Who is Never You Mind (IRE)'s sire?
Never You Mind (IRE) is by Bated Breath (GB) out of Bimini (GB), whose sire is Sadler's Wells.
What is Never You Mind (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 58, from the run on 1 July 2017. That is also the highest on record.
What is Never You Mind (IRE)'s sire's record?
Bated Breath (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.8% of 8,133 runs since Jan 2008 (670 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 7.7% from 846.
Who are Never You Mind (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Bimini (GB), Never You Mind (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Rocket Ship (GB) (2). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Rocket Ship (GB)). The wins came over 1m–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from April 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.