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Horse profile

New Innocence (GB)

2yo colt (at last run, Nov 2009) · Last trainer Gerard Butler · Last owner Fawzi Abdulla Nass
by Where Or When (IRE) out of Scottendale (GB) (Zilzal)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Jul 2009
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 1 Nov 2009 — 6,204 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2009 · 4th of 12 Beaten favourite LTO First-time headgear LTO
KTB Profile

New Innocence (GB) is yet to win from 3 starts. Best effort: 4th of 12 at Lingfield (AW) (Nov 2009).

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 89A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Lingfield (AW), 1 Nov 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 3 figures · best 89A · median 80
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)1———
Good to Firm1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
6f – 7f280A79.5—
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Where Or When (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008 (124 horses).

Weakest on soft going: 4.1% from 217. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 4.6% from 151.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm18211.1%+1.9—
Good to Firm258238.9%−0.30 from 1
Good365359.6%+0.40 from 1
Good to Soft1932211.4%+2.2—
Soft21794.1%−5.1—
Heavy841011.9%+2.7—
Standard (AW)443449.9%+0.70 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f53815.1%+5.9—
6f – 7f15174.6%−4.60 from 2
1m – 1m1f209157.2%−20 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f5226211.9%+2.7—
1m5f – 2m391359%−0.2—
2m1f – 2m4f174126.9%−2.3—
2m5f – 3m7168.5%−0.7—
Over 3m700%−9.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Bush Beauty (IRE) (6 wins).

The wins came over 6f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Bush Beauty (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Bush Beauty (IRE)5966f–7½fClass 4
Becca Campbell (IRE)4151m2f–1m4fClass 5
Scotts Bounty (IRE)30——
Ascot Midnight (IRE)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 2 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Lingfield (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Beverley 1 0 0% −1.00
Newmarket 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Frederik Tylicki 1 0 0% −1.00
Shane Kelly 1 0 0% −1.00
William Buick 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 2 0 0% −2.00
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2009 · 3 runs
01 Nov 09+96d Lingfield (AW) Roman Road Median Auction Maiden Stakes Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 12 ran 4/12 ½ 9-3 89A Frederik Tylicki 2/1F
28 Jul 09+20d Beverley E.b.f. Holderness Pony Club Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7.5f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 4/14 1½ 9-3 80A Shane Kelly 3/1
08 Jul 09 Newmarket Mertoun Paddocks E.b.f. Maiden Stakes Class 2 · 7f · Good · 15 ran 6/15 nk 9-3 79A William Buick 50/1

Quick answers

How many races has New Innocence won?
New Innocence (GB) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2009.
Who trained New Innocence?
New Innocence (GB) was trained by Gerard Butler on the most recent run on record, at Lingfield (AW) on 1 November 2009.
Who is New Innocence's sire?
New Innocence (GB) is by Where Or When (IRE) out of Scottendale (GB), whose sire is Zilzal.
What is New Innocence's sire's record?
Where Or When (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008 (124 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 4.1% from 217. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 4.6% from 151.
Who are New Innocence's siblings?
Out of Scottendale (GB), New Innocence (GB) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Bush Beauty (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Bush Beauty (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from July 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.