A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating87↓ 15lb off peak
8787–102
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
Best recent Speed76the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Hexham, 9 Nov 2018
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
Jumps 6 figures · best 76B · median 69
Going
Runs
Best
Median
Since 28 Oct 2025
Soft
2
72B
69
—
Good to Soft
2
75B
55
—
Good
2
76B
67
—
Distance
Runs
Best
Median
Since 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m
3
76B
72
—
2m1f – 2m4f
3
75B
66
—
Of 9 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (2) · not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 9 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
KTB Rating
Best recent KTB Rating86Cthe best of the last 3 rated runs · Perth, 25 Sep 2019Official rating 87at the last run, 17 Jan 2020
What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →
Jumps 7 figures · best 93A · median 83
Going
Runs
Best
Median
Since 28 Oct 2025
Soft
2
83C
82
—
Good to Soft
2
92B
89
—
Good
2
93A
84
—
Heavy
1
—
—
—
Distance
Runs
Best
Median
Since 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m
4
93A
78.5
—
2m1f – 2m4f
3
92B
86
—
Of 9 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).
KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 9 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Olden Times (GB)
Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 736 runs since Jan 2008 (67 horses).
Strongest on good to firm going: 17.6% from 108. Strongest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 13.7% from 117.
Going
Runs
Wins
SR
vs sire
This horse
Firm
3
2
66.7%
+57.5
—
Good to Firm
108
19
17.6%
+8.4
—
Good
260
20
7.7%
−1.5
0 from 3
Good to Soft
80
8
10%
+0.8
0 from 3
Soft
94
8
8.5%
−0.7
0 from 2
Heavy
38
1
2.6%
−6.6
0 from 1
Standard (AW)
153
10
6.5%
−2.7
—
Distance (all codes)
Runs
Wins
SR
vs sire
This horse
Under 6f
10
2
20%
+10.8
—
6f – 7f
142
10
7%
−2.2
—
1m – 1m1f
166
16
9.6%
+0.4
—
1m2f – 1m4f
117
16
13.7%
+4.5
—
1m5f – 2m
145
10
6.9%
−2.3
0 from 4
2m1f – 2m4f
106
10
9.4%
+0.2
0 from 5
2m5f – 3m
43
4
9.3%
+0.1
—
Over 3m
7
0
0%
−9.2
—
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Oldtimer (IRE) has yet to win, from 9 archived starts between 2018 and 2020.
Who trained Oldtimer?
Oldtimer (IRE) was trained by Martin Todhunter on the most recent run on record, at Musselburgh on 17 January 2020.
Who is Oldtimer's sire?
Oldtimer (IRE) is by Olden Times (GB) out of Supreme Surprise (IRE), whose sire is Presenting.
What is Oldtimer's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 87, from the run on 17 January 2020. The highest on record is 102.
What is Oldtimer's sire's record?
Olden Times (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 736 runs since Jan 2008 (67 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 17.6% from 108. Strongest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 13.7% from 117.
Who are Oldtimer's siblings?
Out of Supreme Surprise (IRE), Oldtimer (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.
Oldtimer (IRE)·0–9·SR 0%
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