Pay Or Pay (GB)
Pay Or Pay (GB) is yet to win from 3 starts.
- 0–3Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −3.00£1 level staken=3 at SP
- 58dAvg between runs
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 6.9% of 1,220 runs since Jan 2008 (86 horses).
Strongest on standard (aw) going: 11% from 317. Weakest on good to firm going: 3.9% from 204. Strongest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 10.4% from 135. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 3.1% from 293.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 34 | 3 | 8.8% | +1.9 | — |
| Good to Firm | 204 | 8 | 3.9% | −3 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 281 | 18 | 6.4% | −0.5 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 124 | 6 | 4.8% | −2.1 | — |
| Soft | 168 | 9 | 5.4% | −1.5 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 92 | 5 | 5.4% | −1.5 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 317 | 35 | 11% | +4.1 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 70 | 6 | 8.6% | +1.7 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 335 | 31 | 9.3% | +2.4 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 130 | 6 | 4.6% | −2.3 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 135 | 14 | 10.4% | +3.5 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 293 | 9 | 3.1% | −3.8 | 0 from 2 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 156 | 10 | 6.4% | −0.5 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 89 | 6 | 6.7% | −0.2 | — |
| Over 3m | 12 | 2 | 16.7% | +9.8 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
4 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Not To Be Missed (GB) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
| Mouse White (GB) | 11 | 0 | — | — |
| Flog It (GB) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
| Loutasha (GB) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class 6 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hamilton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Worcester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kempton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Michael Stainton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tom Messenger | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Antony Procter | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| NH Flat | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2007 · 3 runs | ||||||||
| 20 Jun 07+46d | Hamilton | Scottish Racing Median Auction Maiden Stakes | 8/9 | 18 | 9-7 | 39C | Michael Stainton | 66/1 |
| 05 May 07+70d | Worcester | Ginger Fox Maiden NH Flat Race | 13/14 | 1¼ | 10-12 | 75C | Tom Messenger | 80/1 |
| 24 Feb 07 | Kempton | Racing And Football Outlook Standard Open NH Flat Race | 11/11 | 30 | 11-2 | 100C | Antony Procter | 66/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Pay Or Pay won?
- Pay Or Pay (GB) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2007.
- Who trained Pay Or Pay?
- Pay Or Pay (GB) was trained by Phil McEntee on the most recent run on record, at Hamilton on 20 June 2007.
- Who is Pay Or Pay's sire?
- Pay Or Pay (GB) is by Atraf (GB) out of Petinata (GB), whose sire is Petong.
- What is Pay Or Pay's sire's record?
- Atraf (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 6.9% of 1,220 runs since Jan 2008 (86 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 11% from 317. Weakest on good to firm going: 3.9% from 204. Strongest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 10.4% from 135. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 3.1% from 293.
- Who are Pay Or Pay's siblings?
- Out of Petinata (GB), Pay Or Pay (GB) has 4 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.