Payback (GER)
Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Feb 2012 and Mar 2012, the last of them as a 3yo gelding. Finished 10 of 10 at Lingfield (AW) last time. By Shirocco (GER), whose progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 9,163 runs since Jan 2008.
- 0–2Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −2.00£1 level staken=2 at SP
- 25dAvg between runs
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 9,163 runs since Jan 2008 (920 horses).
Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 7.4% from 203.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 15 | 3 | 20% | +8.8 | — |
| Good to Firm | 343 | 30 | 8.7% | −2.5 | — |
| Good | 2,728 | 316 | 11.6% | +0.4 | — |
| Good to Soft | 1,808 | 218 | 12.1% | +0.9 | — |
| Soft | 2,473 | 258 | 10.4% | −0.8 | — |
| Heavy | 1,030 | 123 | 11.9% | +0.7 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 766 | 76 | 9.9% | −1.3 | 0 from 2 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 20 | 0 | 0% | −11.2 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 203 | 15 | 7.4% | −3.8 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 401 | 34 | 8.5% | −2.7 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1,091 | 107 | 9.8% | −1.4 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 2,697 | 284 | 10.5% | −0.7 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 2,686 | 316 | 11.8% | +0.6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1,661 | 223 | 13.4% | +2.2 | — |
| Over 3m | 404 | 45 | 11.1% | −0.1 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
4 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Promised Wings (GER) (2 wins).
The wins came over 2m4½f–3m½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Promised Wings (GER)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Promised Wings (GER) | 34 | 2 | 2m4½f–3m½f | Class 4 |
| Pandim (GER) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
| Pali (GER) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Picayune (GER) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 07 Mar 12+25d | Lingfield (AW) | Betfred 'the Bonus King' Maiden Stakes | 10/10 | 52 | 9-3 | 39C | Adam Kirby | 66/1 |
| 11 Feb 12 | Lingfield (AW) | Bet On Today's Football At bluesq.com Maiden Stakes | 12/12 | 53 | 9-3 | 39C | Liam Keniry | 80/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Payback (GER) won?
- Payback (GER) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2012.
- Who trained Payback (GER)?
- Payback (GER) was trained by John Butler on the most recent run on record, at Lingfield (AW) on 7 March 2012.
- Who is Payback (GER)'s sire?
- Payback (GER) is by Shirocco (GER) out of Panagia (USA), whose sire is Diesis.
- What is Payback (GER)'s sire's record?
- Shirocco (GER)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 9,163 runs since Jan 2008 (920 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 7.4% from 203.
- Who are Payback (GER)'s siblings?
- Out of Panagia (USA), Payback (GER) has 4 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Promised Wings (GER) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Promised Wings (GER)). The wins came over 2m4½f–3m½f. As at Oct 2026.