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Point Of Principle (IRE)

9yo gelding (at last run, May 2022) · Last trainer Tim Vaughan · Last owner Oceans Racing
by Rip Van Winkle (IRE) out of L'Ancresse (IRE) (Darshaan)
24 runs · 12 courses · from Jan 2017
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 24 May 2022 — 1,626 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2022 · 5th of 6 2 wins · Ascot & Warwick Last raced off OR 113
KTB Profile

Point Of Principle was a gelding who won two of 24 starts on turf, both on soft ground. He took a Class 6 bumper at Warwick in Jan 2017 and a Class 2 novices hurdle at Ascot over 2m1f – 2m4f in Feb 2018. He raced 14 times over 2m1f – 2m4f for that one success and never won over further. Aged 9 at his last run in May 2022, he finished 5 of 6 in a Class 4 handicap hurdle at Bangor-on-Dee off an official rating of 113, 28lb below his highest ever mark.

Based on 24 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 28lb off peak
Official rating113↓ 28lb off peak
113 113–141

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 121 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Warwick, 13 Mar 2022

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 18 figures · best 136B · median 105.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Soft8119B102.5—
Good to Soft5132A118—
Good4136B111.5—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f12136B105.5—
2m5f – 3m3121A86—
1m5f – 2m2116B103.5—
Over 3m1———

Of 24 runs looked at, 6 have no figure: did not complete (3) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (2) · not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 18 figures from 24 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 129A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Chepstow, 4 Feb 2022 Official rating 113 at the last run, 24 May 2022

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 21 figures · best 137A · median 122
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Soft9137A128—
Good to Soft5125A117—
Good5137A127—
Heavy2121B120—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f14137A126—
2m5f – 3m4137A114—
1m5f – 2m2128A121.5—
Over 3m1———

Of 24 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 21 figures from 24 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 3,947 runs since Apr 2014 (324 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm19210.5%+0.4—
Good to Firm499499.8%−0.3—
Good901829.1%−10 from 6
Good to Soft440358%−2.10 from 6
Soft5415410%−0.12 from 9
Heavy1822011%+0.90 from 3
Standard (AW)1,36315711.5%+1.4—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1271511.8%+1.7—
6f – 7f90210111.2%+1.1—
1m – 1m1f976899.1%−1—
1m2f – 1m4f990989.9%−0.2—
1m5f – 2m6366610.4%+0.31 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f258238.9%−1.21 from 14
2m5f – 3m57712.3%+2.20 from 7
Over 3m100%−10.10 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2014 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
L'Ancresse (IRE) (Darshaan)

9 siblings in the archive, 7 winners — best of them Master Of Reality (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 1m–2m1f; the highest grade won is Group 2 (Sibila Spain (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Master Of Reality (IRE)2451m4f–1m6fGroup 3
Frankenstella (IRE)1542m–2m1fClass 2
Chamonix (IRE)1531m4f–1m6fListed
Sibila Spain (IRE)931m–1m2½fGroup 2
Light Well (IRE)911m7½fClass 5
Eminent Authority (IRE)611m3f—
Allez Y (IRE)611m4f—
Waltz (IRE)70——
Sail Boat (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 9 2 22% +55.00
Good to Soft 6 0 0% −6.00
Good 6 0 0% −6.00
Heavy 3 0 0% −3.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 8 1 13% +5.00
Class 4 6 0 0% −6.00
Class 1 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 3 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 6 2 1 50% +49.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Chepstow 5 0 0% −5.00
Aintree 4 0 0% −4.00
Warwick 2 1 50% +49.00
Ascot 2 1 50% +11.00
Newton Abbot 2 0 0% −2.00
Uttoxeter 2 0 0% −2.00
Cheltenham 2 0 0% −2.00
Bangor-on-Dee 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Musselburgh 1 0 0% −1.00
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 14 1 7% −1.00
2m5f – 3m 7 0 0% −7.00
1m5f – 2m 2 1 50% +49.00
Over 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Alan Johns 17 2 12% +47.00
Charlie Price 7 0 0% −7.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 18 2 11% +46.00
Tongue tie + visor 5 0 0% −5.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2022 4 0 0% −4.00
2021 3 0 0% −3.00
2020 3 0 0% −3.00
2019 3 0 0% −3.00
2018 5 1 20% +8.00
2017 6 1 17% +45.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 19 1 5% −6.00
NH Flat 4 1 25% +47.00
Chase 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2022 · 4 runs
24 May 22+72d Bangor-on-Dee Goose Island Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m7f · Good To Soft · 6 ran 5/6 19 11-6 11386C95C Charlie Price 7/1
13 Mar 22+37d Warwick Watch On Racing TV Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m5f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 4/10 8 11-9 114121A117B Charlie Price 11/1
04 Feb 22+29d Chepstow Cazoo Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m3½f · Soft · 10 ran 3/10 8 11-6 117101A129A Charlie Price 16/1
06 Jan 22+33d Chepstow Peter Michael Dixon Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m3½f · Heavy · 11 ran 4/11 11 11-12 12195A119A Charlie Price 50/1
2021 · 3 runs
04 Dec 21+14d Chepstow Martyn & Orsi Support The Injured Jockeys Fund Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 2m7½f · Good To Soft · 11 ran PU/11 — 11-4 125—— Charlie Price 40/1
20 Nov 21+41d Ascot Ebony Horse Club Novices' Limited Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 3 · 3m · Good · 3 ran PU/3 — 10-13 126—— Alan Johns 4/1
10 Oct 21+310d Newton Abbot William Hill Leading Racecourse Bookmaker Handicap Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 2 · 3m2½f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 4/8 6½ 10-9 130118C109C Alan Johns 14/1
2020 · 3 runs
04 Dec 20+40d Sandown Pertemps Network Handicap Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 2 · 2m7½f · Heavy · 10 ran PU/10 — 11-9 136—— Alan Johns 28/1
25 Oct 20+274d Aintree arenagroup.com Handicap Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 2 · 2m4f · Soft · 14 ran 7/14 4¾ 11-1 137104B122A Alan Johns 11/1
25 Jan 20+28d Uttoxeter ninescollection.com January Hurdle (Handicap) Class 2 · 2m4f · Heavy · 5 ran 4/5 ½ 11-0 140—121B Charlie Price 3/1
2019 · 3 runs
28 Dec 19+267d Newbury Betway Heed Your Hunch Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 2m4½f · Soft · 12 ran 7/12 6 11-6 141107A129A Alan Johns 25/1
05 Apr 19+69d Aintree Merseyrail Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) Class 1 · 2m4f · Soft · 21 ran 2/21 1¾ 10-2 136119B137A Charlie Price 25/1
26 Jan 19+70d Uttoxeter Moorland Racing January Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 2m4f · Soft · 12 ran 9/12 11 11-7 13770C115C Alan Johns 9/2
2018 · 5 runs
17 Nov 18+35d Cheltenham BetVictor Intermediate Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 2m5f · Good · 14 ran 5/14 ½ 11-12 137—137A Alan Johns 11/1
13 Oct 18+169d Chepstow Chepstow Contract Rentals 10 Year Anniversary Silver Trophy Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) Class 1 · 2m3½f · Good · 18 ran 2/18 1¾ 11-3 135136B135A Alan Johns 25/1
27 Apr 18+14d Chepstow Sun Trade Windows Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m3½f · Soft · 13 ran 5/13 11 11-6 136—112A Alan Johns 5/2F
13 Apr 18+55d Aintree Doom Bar Sefton Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) Class 1 · 3m½f · Soft · 13 ran 7/13 14 11-4 13680C111C Alan Johns 66/1
17 Feb 18+79d Ascot Ascot Schools Art Competition Novices' Hurdle Class 2 · 2m3½f · Soft · 5 ran 1/5 11-0 12589C128B Alan Johns 12/1
2017 · 6 runs
30 Nov 17+34d Musselburgh Isn't It Wiser To Bet At racinguk.com Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 2m3½f · Good · 10 ran 2/10 6 11-0 —103A127A Alan Johns 11/4
27 Oct 17+35d Cheltenham Foundation Developments Ltd Maiden Hurdle Class 3 · 2m½f · Good · 8 ran 4/8 7 11-0 —91A115A Alan Johns 8/1
22 Sep 17+168d Newton Abbot SIS Trading Services Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 2m1f · Good To Soft · 6 ran 2/6 15 11-5 —110A122B Alan Johns 5/4F
07 Apr 17+46d Aintree Weatherbys Private Bank Standard Open NH Flat Race (Grade 2) Class 1 · 2m1f · Good · 19 ran 7/19 1¾ 10-12 113120B127A Alan Johns 66/1
20 Feb 17+37d Carlisle Penrith Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 2m1f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 2/8 ¾ 10-11 —132A125A Alan Johns 7/1
14 Jan 17 Warwick Betfred TV "Newcomers" Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race Class 6 · 2m · Soft · 14 ran 1/14 10-4 —116B128A Alan Johns 50/1

Quick answers

How many races has Point Of Principle won?
Point Of Principle (IRE) won 2 of 24 archived starts between 2017 and 2022, a strike rate of 8.3%. Placed 8 times in total (33.3% of starts).
Who trained Point Of Principle?
Point Of Principle (IRE) was trained by Tim Vaughan on the most recent run on record, at Bangor-on-Dee on 24 May 2022.
Who is Point Of Principle's sire?
Point Of Principle (IRE) is by Rip Van Winkle (IRE) out of L'Ancresse (IRE), whose sire is Darshaan.
What going does Point Of Principle prefer?
Point Of Principle (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 2 wins from 9 starts (22.2%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Point Of Principle's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 113, from the run on 24 May 2022. The highest on record is 141.
What is Point Of Principle's sire's record?
Rip Van Winkle (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 3,947 runs since Apr 2014 (324 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Point Of Principle's siblings?
Out of L'Ancresse (IRE), Point Of Principle (IRE) has 9 other produce in our archive, 7 of them winners. Most wins: Master Of Reality (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Group 2 (Sibila Spain (IRE)). The wins came over 1m–2m1f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from January 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.