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Horse profile

Point Sur (IRE)

2yo colt (at last run, Oct 2023) · Last trainer Charlie Appleby · Last owner Godolphin
2 runs · 1 course · from Oct 2023
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 25 Oct 2023 — 1,085 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2023 · 1st of 12 Won last time out Won at Newmarket
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts, both in Oct 2023, the last of them as a 2yo colt. Finished 1 of 12 at Newmarket last time. By Too Darn Hot (GB), whose progeny in our archive have won 14.2% of 2,294 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Win at Class 4

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 107 the best of the last 2 graded (A or B) runs · Newmarket, 25 Oct 2023

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.

Flat 2 figures · best 107A · median 85
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Soft1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
6f – 7f2107A85—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 104A the best of the last 2 rated runs · Newmarket, 25 Oct 2023

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Flat 2 figures · best 104A · median 98.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Soft1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
6f – 7f2104A98.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 14.2% of 2,294 runs since Jan 2008 (318 horses).

Weakest at trips under 6f (all codes): 9.6% from 115.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm9333.3%+19.1—
Good to Firm4697115.1%+0.90 from 1
Good6168213.3%−0.9—
Good to Soft2563714.5%+0.3—
Soft2272912.8%−1.41 from 1
Heavy601118.3%+4.1—
Standard (AW)6569314.2%0—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f115119.6%−4.6—
6f – 7f90913214.5%+0.31 from 2
1m – 1m1f69010415.1%+0.9—
1m2f – 1m4f4686614.1%−0.1—
1m5f – 2m911314.3%+0.1—
2m1f – 2m4f2100%−14.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

4 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Warning Fire (GB) (5 wins).

The wins came over 6f–2m½f; the highest grade won is Group 2 (Al Nayyir (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Warning Fire (GB)1956f–1mClass 4
Al Nayyir (GB)1641m6f–2m½fGroup 2
New London (IRE)941m2f–1m4fGroup 3
Al Dabaran (GB)727fListed

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
25 Oct 23+18d Newmarket Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes Class 4 · 7f · Soft · 12 ran 1/12 9-2 107A104A William Buick 13/8F
07 Oct 23 Newmarket Virgin Bet Daily Price Boost Maiden Stakes (GBB Race) Class 4 · 7f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 4/8 nk 9-7 63A93A Kevin Stott 11/2

Quick answers

How many races has Point Sur (IRE) won?
Point Sur (IRE) won 1 of 2 archived starts in 2023, a strike rate of 50%. Placed 1 time in total (50% of starts).
Who trained Point Sur (IRE)?
Point Sur (IRE) was trained by Charlie Appleby on the most recent run on record, at Newmarket on 25 October 2023.
Who is Point Sur (IRE)'s sire?
Point Sur (IRE) is by Too Darn Hot (GB) out of Bright Beacon (GB), whose sire is Manduro.
What is Point Sur (IRE)'s sire's record?
Too Darn Hot (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 14.2% of 2,294 runs since Jan 2008 (318 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest at trips under 6f (all codes): 9.6% from 115.
Who are Point Sur (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Bright Beacon (GB), Point Sur (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Warning Fire (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Group 2 (Al Nayyir (GB)). The wins came over 6f–2m½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2023. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.