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Horse profile

Pretty Obvious (FR)

4yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2017) · Last trainer Jonjo O'Neill · Last owner John P Mcmanus
by Montmartre (FR) out of Societe (FR) (Panis)
5 runs · 3 courses · from May 2017
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Aug 2017 — 3,362 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2017 · 8th of 8 Last raced off OR 64
KTB Profile

Pretty Obvious (FR) is yet to win from 5 starts. Last raced off a career-high mark of 64.

Based on 5 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 64 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Windsor, 7 Aug 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 4 figures · best 84A · median 57.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good to Firm284A64—
Good1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f284A74—
1m – 1m1f251A47.5—
Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 64A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Windsor, 10 Jul 2017 Official rating 64 at the last flat run, 7 Aug 2017

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 85A the best of the last 1 rated run · Market Rasen, 12 May 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 4 figures · best 70A · median 62.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good to Firm270A67—
Good1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f270A59—
1m – 1m1f264A62.5—
Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 11.6% of 2,388 runs since Jan 2008 (303 horses).

Weakest on standard (aw) going: 4.5% from 179. Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 15.9% from 598. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 2.9% from 138.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm11100%+88.4—
Good to Firm25520%+8.40 from 2
Good5106011.8%+0.20 from 2
Good to Soft3685113.9%+2.3—
Soft88610411.7%+0.10 from 1
Heavy4194711.2%−0.4—
Standard (AW)17984.5%−7.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f100%−11.6—
6f – 7f2414.2%−7.4—
1m – 1m1f13842.9%−8.70 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f2993612%+0.40 from 2
1m5f – 2m5989515.9%+4.30 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f95410711.2%−0.4—
2m5f – 3m317288.8%−2.8—
Over 3m5758.8%−2.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Societe (FR) (Panis)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Sweet (FR)10——
Antidote (FR)60——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 6 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Windsor 3 0 0% −3.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00
Market Rasen 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m – 1m1f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Fran Berry 2 0 0% −2.00
Timmy Murphy 2 0 0% −2.00
Aidan Coleman 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 4 0 0% −4.00
NH Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
07 Aug 17+28d Windsor Macdonald Hotel Handicap Class 5 · 10f · Good · 8 ran 8/8 4½ 9-8 6464A48A Fran Berry 17/2
10 Jul 17+11d Windsor BGC Racing Text BGC To 60777 Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 8f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 6/7 2 10-0 —44A64A Fran Berry 33/1
29 Jun 17+10d Nottingham 10 Free Bet At 32red.com Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 8.5f · Soft · 7 ran 6/7 5 9-12 —51A61A Timmy Murphy 50/1
19 Jun 17+38d Windsor Eton Crown & Cushion Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 10f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 8/10 ½ 10-0 —84A70A Timmy Murphy 50/1
12 May 17 Market Rasen Follow racing_uk On Twitter Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16.5f · Good · 8 ran 6/8 9 10-12 —76A85A Aidan Coleman 13/8

Quick answers

How many races has Pretty Obvious (FR) won?
Pretty Obvious (FR) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts in 2017.
Who trained Pretty Obvious (FR)?
Pretty Obvious (FR) was trained by Jonjo O'Neill on the most recent run on record, at Windsor on 7 August 2017.
Who is Pretty Obvious (FR)'s sire?
Pretty Obvious (FR) is by Montmartre (FR) out of Societe (FR), whose sire is Panis.
What is Pretty Obvious (FR)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 64, from the run on 7 August 2017. That is also the highest on record.
What is Pretty Obvious (FR)'s sire's record?
Montmartre (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.6% of 2,388 runs since Jan 2008 (303 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 4.5% from 179. Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 15.9% from 598. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 2.9% from 138.
Who are Pretty Obvious (FR)'s siblings?
Out of Societe (FR), Pretty Obvious (FR) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.