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Horse profile

Rhetorical (GB)

3yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2024) · Last trainer William Haggas · Last owner Highclere Thoroughbred Racing Picasso
by Wootton Bassett (GB) out of Motivation (FR) (Muhtathir)
4 runs · 4 courses · from May 2024
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Sep 2024 — 774 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2024 · 5th of 9 Won at Newbury Last raced off OR 88
KTB Profile

Rhetorical won the Coolmore Stud St Mark's Basilica EBF Maiden Stakes at Newbury in May 2024 on good ground over 1m2f – 1m4f. The gelding, by Wootton Bassett out of a Muhtathir mare, has one win and two places from four runs at Class 4 level, all over 1m2f – 1m4f. He reached an official rating of 88. His last run, at Ascot in Sep 2024, was fifth of nine in a Class 3 handicap off that mark.

Based on 4 archived runs · run-style from 1 commented run since Sep 2024 · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Win at Class 4

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 99 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Kempton (AW), 10 Jul 2024

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 4 figures · best 106A · median 88.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good2106A83.5—
Soft1———
Standard (AW)1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f4106A88.5—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 93A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Newmarket, 21 Jun 2024 Official rating 88 at the last run, 7 Sep 2024

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 4 figures · best 93A · median 86.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good293A90—
Soft1———
Standard (AW)1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f493A86.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 13.1% of 5,640 runs since Jan 2008 (788 horses).

Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 16.1% from 161.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−13.1—
Good to Firm5567313.1%0—
Good1,30019114.7%+1.61 from 2
Good to Soft8359911.9%−1.2—
Soft1,01115215%+1.90 from 1
Heavy3514813.7%+0.6—
Standard (AW)1,58317411%−2.10 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1612616.1%+3—
6f – 7f1,92630215.7%+2.6—
1m – 1m1f1,89921811.5%−1.6—
1m2f – 1m4f1,27015212%−1.11 from 4
1m5f – 2m2813612.8%−0.3—
2m1f – 2m4f9433.2%−9.9—
2m5f – 3m900%−13.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Motivation (FR) (Muhtathir)

6 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Rock And Roll (FR) (3 wins).

The wins came over 1m1½f–2m2f; the highest grade won is Listed (Rock And Roll (FR)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Rock And Roll (FR)2932m2fListed
Sassandra (GB)211m3f—
Rocky Run (IRE)611m1½f—
Miss Alpha (FR)50——
Rockemperor (IRE)40——
Rock And Roll (FR)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 1 50% +2.33
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Standard (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 2 1 50% +2.33
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 2 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ascot 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Newmarket 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 1 100% +3.33

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Tom Marquand 2 1 50% +2.33
Billy Loughnane 1 0 0% −1.00
Cieren Fallon 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
07 Sep 24+59d Ascot UK Hi-Fi Show Live September 21st-22nd 'Confined' Handicap Class 3 · 10f · Soft · 9 ran Settled at the back early - urged forward outside the final 3f - lost touch with rivals 2f out - kept going late but made no further gain approaching the line 5/9 3¼ 9-5 8878A82A Billy Loughnane 7/2
10 Jul 24+19d Kempton (AW) Unibet Zero% Mission/British EBF Novice Stakes (GBB Race) Class 2 · 12f · Standard To Slow · 13 ran 6/13 ½ 9-10 8899B86A Tom Marquand EvensF
21 Jun 24+35d Newmarket Long Shot Seltzer Spring British EBF Novice Stakes (GBB Race) Class 4 · 10f · Good · 7 ran 2/7 ½ 9-10 —61B93A Cieren Fallon 11/10F
17 May 24 Newbury Coolmore Stud St Mark's Basilica EBF Maiden Stakes (GBB Race) (Div 2) Class 4 · 10f · Good · 12 ran 1/12 9-7 —106A87A Tom Marquand 10/3

Quick answers

How many races has Rhetorical (GB) won?
Rhetorical (GB) won 1 of 4 archived starts in 2024, a strike rate of 25%. Placed 2 times in total (50% of starts).
Who trained Rhetorical (GB)?
Rhetorical (GB) was trained by William Haggas on the most recent run on record, at Ascot on 7 September 2024.
Who is Rhetorical (GB)'s sire?
Rhetorical (GB) is by Wootton Bassett (GB) out of Motivation (FR), whose sire is Muhtathir.
What is Rhetorical (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 88, from the run on 7 September 2024. That is also the highest on record.
What is Rhetorical (GB)'s sire's record?
Wootton Bassett (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.1% of 5,640 runs since Jan 2008 (788 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 16.1% from 161.
Who are Rhetorical (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Motivation (FR), Rhetorical (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Rock And Roll (FR) (3). Highest grade won: Listed (Rock And Roll (FR)). The wins came over 1m1½f–2m2f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2024. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.