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Horse profile

Roses Need Rain (IRE)

4yo filly (at last run, Jul 2017) · Last trainer A Oliver · Last owner The Horticultural Partnership
by Makfi (GB) out of Alshakr (GB) (Bahri)
11 runs · 8 courses · from Dec 2015
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 26 Jul 2017 — 3,381 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2017 · 11th of 13 Beaten favourite LTO Last raced off OR 56
KTB Profile

Roses Need Rain (IRE) is yet to win from 11 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 2nd of 17 at Navan (Apr 2017).

Based on 11 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
Official rating56↓ 6lb off peak
56 56–62

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 97 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Down Royal, 24 Jun 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 10 figures · best 97A · median 80.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good497A88.5—
Standard (AW)392B81—
Good to Firm290C72.5—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f490C77—
1m2f – 1m4f497A94.5—
6f – 7f269A62—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 10 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 74A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Tipperary, 6 Jul 2017 Official rating 56 at the last run, 26 Jul 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 11 figures · best 87A · median 65
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good479A67—
Standard (AW)472A64.5—
Good to Firm287A80.5—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f587A72—
1m2f – 1m4f469A64.5—
6f – 7f274A68—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 11 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 3,828 runs since Jan 2008 (358 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm7114.3%+3—
Good to Firm3454513%+1.70 from 2
Good7849712.4%+1.10 from 4
Good to Soft5636311.2%−0.10 from 1
Soft683649.4%−1.9—
Heavy2914013.7%+2.4—
Standard (AW)1,15512310.6%−0.70 from 4
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f56712.5%+1.2—
6f – 7f88210211.6%+0.30 from 2
1m – 1m1f1,14012210.7%−0.60 from 5
1m2f – 1m4f1,11013612.3%+10 from 4
1m5f – 2m4284510.5%−0.8—
2m1f – 2m4f141128.5%−2.8—
2m5f – 3m61914.8%+3.5—
Over 3m1000%−11.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Alshakr (GB) (Bahri)

6 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Nafaath (IRE) (6 wins).

The wins came over 6f–2m4f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Nafaath (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Nafaath (IRE)6667f–2m4fClass 5
Shamrokh (IRE)2331m–1m2fClass 5
Salhooda (IRE)727f–1m1f—
Sufad (GB)2111m6f—
Ahaaly (GB)516f—
Ladood (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Standard (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Dundalk (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00
Roscommon 1 0 0% −1.00
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 5 0 0% −5.00
1m2f – 1m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
6f – 7f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Conor Hoban 4 0 0% −4.00
Gary Halpin 2 0 0% −2.00
W J Lee 2 0 0% −2.00
Oisin Orr 1 0 0% −1.00
Shane Foley 1 0 0% −1.00
Conor McGovern 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 7 0 0% −7.00
Blinkers 2 0 0% −2.00
Cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 8 0 0% −8.00
2016 2 0 0% −2.00
2015 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 8 runs
26 Jul 17+16d Naas www.naasracecourse.com Apprentice Handicap (45-65) 8f · Good · 13 ran 11/13 ½ 9-3 5664C48A Oisin Orr 11/2F
10 Jul 17+4d Roscommon Property Partners Earley Auctioneers Fillies Handicap 7f · Good To Yielding · 11 ran 6/11 ¾ 8-11 5969A62A Gary Halpin 5/1
06 Jul 17+12d Tipperary Costello's Tavern Handicap (45-65) 7.5f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 7/15 nk 9-11 5955C74A Shane Foley 10/1
24 Jun 17+6d Down Royal Down Royal Handicap (50-80) 10.5f · Good · 9 ran 6/9 3½ 8-8 6097A65A Conor Hoban 5/1
18 Jun 17+17d Cork Blizzards Play Live July 14th Handicap (45-65) (Div 1) 8.5f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 4/15 1 10-0 6190C87A W J Lee 5/1
01 Jun 17+38d Fairyhouse Jogforjockeys.ie Apprentice Handicap (45-65) (Div 1) 10f · Good · 15 ran 8/15 1¼ 9-8 6197C69A Conor McGovern 5/1F
24 Apr 17+94d Navan Racing Again May 20th Handicap (45-65) 8f · Good · 17 ran 2/17 1¾ 9-8 5980C79A Gary Halpin 12/1
20 Jan 17+28d Dundalk (AW) Mayfly Marketing Handicap (45-65) 8f · Standard · 14 ran 9/14 1¼ 9-11 6274B65A Conor Hoban 20/1
2016 · 2 runs
23 Dec 16+14d Dundalk (AW) Christmas Party Nights At Dundalk Stadium Maiden 12f · Standard · 14 ran 9/14 nk 9-0 —81B59A Conor Hoban 25/1
09 Dec 16+371d Dundalk (AW) New Year's Eve Greyhound Racing At Dundalk Maiden 10.5f · Standard · 13 ran 9/13 1¾ 9-0 —92B64A Conor Hoban 25/1
2015 · 1 run
04 Dec 15 Dundalk (AW) Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Fillies Maiden 8f · Standard · 14 ran 5/14 ¾ 9-0 ——72A W J Lee 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Roses Need Rain won?
Roses Need Rain (IRE) has yet to win, from 11 archived starts between 2015 and 2017. Placed 1 time in total (9.1% of starts).
Who trained Roses Need Rain?
Roses Need Rain (IRE) was trained by A Oliver on the most recent run on record, at Naas on 26 July 2017.
Who is Roses Need Rain's sire?
Roses Need Rain (IRE) is by Makfi (GB) out of Alshakr (GB), whose sire is Bahri.
What is Roses Need Rain's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 56, from the run on 26 July 2017. The highest on record is 62.
What is Roses Need Rain's sire's record?
Makfi (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 3,828 runs since Jan 2008 (358 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Roses Need Rain's siblings?
Out of Alshakr (GB), Roses Need Rain (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Nafaath (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Nafaath (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–2m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2015. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.