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Horse profile

Saynothinatall (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2024) · Last trainer Darren Collins · Last owner Profit In Your Pocket Racing Club
by Ribchester (IRE) out of She Wolf (GB) (Medicean)
9 runs · 6 courses · from Jul 2023
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 23 Aug 2024 — 796 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2024 · 8th of 14 Last raced off OR 87
KTB Profile

Saynothinatall is a maiden who has been unplaced in all nine starts on turf. His best effort came when fourth of 12 at Kilbeggan in Jul 2024. He ran over 2m1f – 2m4f on good to soft or softer on all but one of his starts. He finished eighth of 14 in the Tom Lynam Memorial Handicap Hurdle at Kilbeggan in Aug 2024.

Based on 9 archived runs · run-style from 2 commented runs since Aug 2024 · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 8lb off peak
Official rating87↓ 8lb off peak
87 87–95

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 86 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Kilbeggan, 23 Aug 2024

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 8 figures · best 102B · median 73.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft4102B70.5—
Good to Soft386B68—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f5102B83—
1m5f – 2m368B62—

Of 9 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 9 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 101A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Ballinrobe, 12 Aug 2024 Official rating 87 at the last run, 23 Aug 2024

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 9 figures · best 101A · median 86
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft5101A91—
Good to Soft395C83—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f5101A95—
1m5f – 2m491C82—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 9 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9% of 2,759 runs since Jan 2008 (261 horses).

Strongest on heavy going: 15.3% from 118. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 14.1% from 213.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm8112.5%+3.5—
Good to Firm337329.5%+0.5—
Good581559.5%+0.50 from 1
Good to Soft323278.4%−0.60 from 3
Soft395358.9%−0.10 from 5
Heavy1181815.3%+6.3—
Standard (AW)997818.1%−0.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2133014.1%+5.1—
6f – 7f1,156988.5%−0.5—
1m – 1m1f727567.7%−1.3—
1m2f – 1m4f4094110%+1—
1m5f – 2m161159.3%+0.30 from 4
2m1f – 2m4f85910.6%+1.60 from 5
2m5f – 3m700%−9—
Over 3m100%−9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
She Wolf (GB) (Medicean)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Knockraha Eagle (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 2m4½f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Knockraha Eagle (IRE)1012m4½f—
Teofilo Wolf (GB)10——
Shine Through (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kilbeggan 3 0 0% −3.00
Galway 2 0 0% −2.00
Ballinrobe 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00
Roscommon 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 5 0 0% −5.00
1m5f – 2m 4 0 0% −4.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
P J O'Hanlon 3 0 0% −3.00
Jack G Gilligan 3 0 0% −3.00
Mr P J Cawley 1 0 0% −1.00
J J Slevin 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr E P O'Brien 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 7 0 0% −7.00
Cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2024 6 0 0% −6.00
2023 3 0 0% −3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 8 0 0% −8.00
NH Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2024 · 6 runs
23 Aug 24+11d Kilbeggan Tom Lynam Memorial Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 18.5f · Good To Yielding · 14 ran Settled just behind pacesetter early - slipped to third by halfway then faded further approaching three out - driven from the following fence with little response - held steady effort to the line finishing eighth 8/14 14 10-7 8786B83A P J O'Hanlon 25/1
12 Aug 24+31d Ballinrobe Broderick's Electric Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 17f · Yielding To Soft · 14 ran Shared the front spot early - sat close up after the 2nd - baulked 3 out - hit the front for a moment 2 out - pushed along and overtaken soon after - unable to find more in 5th and stayed on at one gear to finish sixth 6/14 2 11-7 8779B101A P J O'Hanlon 22/1
12 Jul 24+34d Kilbeggan Larrigy's Pub Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 2) 19.5f · Good To Yielding · 12 ran 4/12 ¾ 11-9 9058C95C P J O'Hanlon 16/1
08 Jun 24+22d Punchestown Ladbrokes Play '1-2-Free' On Football Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 1) 19.5f · Good · 18 ran 14/18 4½ 11-5 9383C86C Jack G Gilligan 28/1
17 May 24+24d Kilbeggan William Hill Epic Boost Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 16f · Good To Yielding · 14 ran 12/14 4½ 10-7 9568B73A Jack G Gilligan 14/1
23 Apr 24+211d Tipperary Welcome To Tipperary Maiden Hurdle 20f · Yielding · 19 ran 9/19 3¾ 10-11 —102B97A Jack G Gilligan 250/1
2023 · 3 runs
25 Sep 23+14d Roscommon Boyle Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft · 12 ran 10/12 7 11-0 —62C84C Mr P J Cawley 250/1
11 Sep 23+42d Galway Kenny Developments Maiden Hurdle 16.5f · Soft · 15 ran 12/15 shd 11-10 —53C80C J J Slevin 66/1
31 Jul 23 Galway Monami Construction Flat Race 16.5f · Soft · 14 ran 11/14 23 11-5 ——91C Mr E P O'Brien 100/1

Quick answers

How many races has Saynothinatall won?
Saynothinatall (IRE) has yet to win, from 9 archived starts between 2023 and 2024.
Who trained Saynothinatall?
Saynothinatall (IRE) was trained by Darren Collins on the most recent run on record, at Kilbeggan on 23 August 2024.
Who is Saynothinatall's sire?
Saynothinatall (IRE) is by Ribchester (IRE) out of She Wolf (GB), whose sire is Medicean.
What is Saynothinatall's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 87, from the run on 23 August 2024. The highest on record is 95.
What is Saynothinatall's sire's record?
Ribchester (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9% of 2,759 runs since Jan 2008 (261 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 15.3% from 118. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 14.1% from 213.
Who are Saynothinatall's siblings?
Out of She Wolf (GB), Saynothinatall (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Knockraha Eagle (IRE) (1). The wins came over 2m4½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from July 2023. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.