Seeingisbelieving (IRE)
Seeingisbelieving is a gelding who won one of 15 starts on turf. His sole success came in the Return Of The Flat At Navan Handicap at Navan in Mar 2023 over under 6f on heavy ground off a mark of 63. He has not won since and last ran at Navan in Oct 2024, finishing 19 of 19 in the Safer Gambling Handicap off an official rating of 62. He raced 21lb below his highest ever mark of 83 on that occasion.
- 1–15Wins / Runs
- 6.7%Strike rate
- 4 (26.7%)Placed
- −9.50£1 level staken=15 at SP
- 0.65Fair A/E n=15 · 0.53 incl. margin
- 83Highest OR
- 85dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 83
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 14 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 7 | 89C | 78 | — |
| Good | 4 | 76A | 73.5 | — |
| Heavy | 3 | 117C | 68 | — |
| Good to Soft | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 14 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 12 | 89C | 70.5 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 74C | 65 | — |
| Under 6f | 1 | — | — | — |
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 15 figures from 15 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 11.1% of 3,585 runs since Jan 2008 (296 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 5 | 1 | 20% | +8.9 | — |
| Good to Firm | 341 | 43 | 12.6% | +1.5 | — |
| Good | 870 | 99 | 11.4% | +0.3 | 0 from 4 |
| Good to Soft | 430 | 56 | 13% | +1.9 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 693 | 70 | 10.1% | −1 | 0 from 7 |
| Heavy | 270 | 25 | 9.3% | −1.8 | 1 from 3 |
| Standard (AW) | 976 | 103 | 10.6% | −0.5 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 81 | 7 | 8.6% | −2.5 | 1 from 1 |
| 6f – 7f | 845 | 95 | 11.2% | +0.1 | 0 from 12 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,043 | 105 | 10.1% | −1 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 784 | 94 | 12% | +0.9 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 531 | 71 | 13.4% | +2.3 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 229 | 22 | 9.6% | −1.5 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 62 | 2 | 3.2% | −7.9 | — |
| Over 3m | 10 | 1 | 10% | −1.1 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Ziggy's Dream (IRE) (4 wins).
The wins came over 5f–7f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Ziggy's Dream (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ziggy's Dream (IRE) | 17 | 4 | 5f–6f | Class 4 |
| Bantz (IRE) | 32 | 2 | 7f | Class 6 |
| No More Regrets (IRE) | 18 | 0 | — | — |
| Vivid Imagination (IRE) | 7 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Good | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Heavy | 3 | 1 | 33% | +2.50 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Navan | 3 | 1 | 33% | +2.50 |
| Naas | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Curragh | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Bellewstown | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Galway | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Gowran Park | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sligo | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Listowel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 12 | 0 | 0% | −12.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Under 6f | 1 | 1 | 100% | +4.50 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wesley Joyce | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Gary Carroll | 7 | 1 | 14% | −1.50 |
| Jamie Spencer | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2023 | 2 | 1 | 50% | +3.50 |
| 2022 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| 2021 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 23 Oct 24+14d | Navan | Safer Gambling Handicap (47-70) Sat close to the pace on the stands' side - urged forward from halfway - had nothing left in reserve and dropped away tamely | 19/19 | 1¾ | 9-3 | 62 | 41C | 45C | Wesley Joyce | 33/1 |
| 09 Oct 24+560d | Navan | Book Your Discounted Tickets On NavanRacecourse.ie Apprentice Handicap (47-65) Knocked at the break - up with the pace before pressed for effort at halfway - dropped away late | 17/18 | 4¾ | 10-1 | 64 | -1C | 48C | Wesley Joyce | 12/1 |
| 29 Mar 23+4d | Navan | Return Of The Flat At Navan Handicap (47-65) | 1/18 | 10-0 | 63 | 117C | 129A | Gary Carroll | 9/2F | |
| 25 Mar 23+178d | Curragh | Live Music After Racing At Mcdonnells Bar Newbridge Handicap (50-70) | 2/17 | ½ | 9-10 | 63 | 68C | 101A | Gary Carroll | 16/1 |
| 28 Sep 22+65d | Bellewstown | Barney Curley Charity Cup Handicap (47-75) | 8/10 | 1¼ | 9-5 | 68 | 56A | 52A | Jamie Spencer | 16/1 |
| 25 Jul 22+43d | Galway | Claytonhotelgalway.ie Handicap (50-80) | 14/15 | 9½ | 8-12 | 71 | 28C | 36C | Wesley Joyce | 13/2 |
| 12 Jun 22+42d | Gowran Park | Golf At Gowran Park Handicap (47-75) | 9/10 | 3 | 9-7 | 75 | 73A | 48A | Wesley Joyce | 10/1 |
| 01 May 22+11d | Sligo | Tote Guarantee On All Win Bets Median Auction Maiden | 4/7 | ½ | 9-8 | 80 | 83A | 72A | Gary Carroll | 3/1 |
| 20 Apr 22+24d | Bellewstown | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden | 9/13 | nk | 9-1 | 82 | 74C | 44A | Wesley Joyce | 12/1 |
| 27 Mar 22+147d | Naas | Madrid Handicap (Premier Handicap) | 5/10 | ½ | 8-3 | 83 | 87A | 67A | Wesley Joyce | 13/2 |
| 31 Oct 21+14d | Naas | Tally-Ho Stud Irish EBF Birdcatcher Premier Nursery Handicap | 16/16 | 5½ | 8-12 | 83 | 23C | 59C | Gary Carroll | 10/3F |
| 17 Oct 21+22d | Naas | Irish EBF Auction Series Race Final | 3/16 | 2½ | 9-1 | 83 | 61C | 83A | Gary Carroll | 11/1 |
| 25 Sep 21+4d | Curragh | Irish EBF Auction Series Race | 4/9 | 1 | 8-8 | — | 76A | 69A | Wesley Joyce | 6/4F |
| 21 Sep 21+57d | Listowel | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden | 3/13 | nk | 9-7 | — | 89C | 89A | Gary Carroll | 14/1 |
| 26 Jul 21 | Galway | Claregalwayhotel.ie Irish EBF (C & G) Maiden | 6/9 | 1½ | 9-5 | — | 78A | 76A | Gary Carroll | 40/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Seeingisbelieving (IRE) won?
- Seeingisbelieving (IRE) won 1 of 15 archived starts between 2021 and 2024, a strike rate of 6.7%. Placed 4 times in total (26.7% of starts).
- Who trained Seeingisbelieving (IRE)?
- Seeingisbelieving (IRE) was trained by Michael Mulvany on the most recent run on record, at Navan on 23 October 2024.
- Who is Seeingisbelieving (IRE)'s sire?
- Seeingisbelieving (IRE) is by Make Believe (GB) out of Shifting (IRE), whose sire is Oratorio.
- What going does Seeingisbelieving (IRE) prefer?
- Seeingisbelieving (IRE) has the best record on heavy going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Seeingisbelieving (IRE)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 62, from the run on 23 October 2024. The highest on record is 83.
- What is Seeingisbelieving (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Make Believe (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.1% of 3,585 runs since Jan 2008 (296 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Seeingisbelieving (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of Shifting (IRE), Seeingisbelieving (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Ziggy's Dream (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Ziggy's Dream (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–7f. As at Oct 2026.