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Horse profile

Serious Chat (IRE)

7yo gelding · Trainer Donald McCain · Owner Greyland Ltd
by Doyen (IRE) out of Mathine (FR) (Malinas)
17 runs · 12 courses · from May 2024
As at 18 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
6 wins · 5 courses Ran 22 days ago · 3rd of 4 Last raced off OR 131
KTB Profile

Serious Chat (IRE) is 6 from 17. 5 of 12 starts on good or faster ground have ended in wins — 1 from 5 on softer.

Based on 17 archived runs · run-style from 8 commented runs · updated 18 Oct 2026
Official rating131↓ 1lb off peak
131 107–132

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 130 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Haydock, 15 Apr 2026

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 16 figures · best 130A · median 103.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
Good11130A1033 · 130 / 92
Soft3104A982 · 104 / 101
Good to Soft2122B1131 · —
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m7130A984 · 130 / 95
2m1f – 2m4f6122B1042 · 104 / 104
1m5f – 2m2106A75—
Over 3m1———

Of 17 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 17 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 143A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Haydock, 15 Apr 2026 Official rating 131 at the last run, 25 Sep 2026

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 17 figures · best 143A · median 121
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
Good12143A121.54 · 143 / 119
Soft3140A1322 · 140 / 136
Good to Soft2117A116.51 · —
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m8143A1255 · 143 / 124
2m1f – 2m4f6140A118.52 · 140 / 128.5
1m5f – 2m2138A130—
Over 3m1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 17 figures from 17 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 8 analysed runs

  • Prominent 3 (38%) · 2 wins
  • Led 3 (38%) · 3 wins
  • Held up 2 (25%) · 0 wins

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 11.5% of 7,346 runs since Jan 2008 (605 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2229.1%−2.4—
Good to Firm3504212%+0.5—
Good2,23227312.2%+0.75 from 12
Good to Soft1,43019313.5%+20 from 2
Soft2,00521510.7%−0.81 from 3
Heavy761668.7%−2.8—
Standard (AW)5465710.4%−1.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f7667.9%−3.6—
6f – 7f3603610%−1.5—
1m – 1m1f4114510.9%−0.6—
1m2f – 1m4f5846010.3%−1.2—
1m5f – 2m2,17725111.5%01 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f2,19326412%+0.52 from 6
2m5f – 3m1,28215812.3%+0.83 from 8
Over 3m2632810.6%−0.90 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 17 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Mathine (FR) (Malinas)

7 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Arizona Cardinal (GB) (7 wins).

The wins came over 2m1½f–3m2f; the highest grade won is Class 1 (Arizona Cardinal (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Arizona Cardinal (GB)1972m3f–3mClass 1
Spike Jones (GB)2552m1½f–3m2fClass 3
Destroytheevidence (GB)2142m5f–3m½fClass 3
Lilly Pedlar (GB)1212m4fClass 4
Onetingfornuttin (IRE)10——
Presley (IRE)20——
Freedom Run (GB)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 12 5 42% +12.87
Soft 3 1 33% +3.50
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 7 2 29% +1.75
Class 3 4 2 50% +4.00
Class 2 3 1 33% +10.00
Class 5 1 1 100% +0.62

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Haydock 2 1 50% +11.00
Doncaster 2 1 50% +4.50
Bangor-on-Dee 2 1 50% +3.00
Stratford 2 2 100% +3.37
Wetherby 2 1 50% −0.50
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Musselburgh 1 0 0% −1.00
Warwick 1 0 0% −1.00
Market Rasen 1 0 0% −1.00
Catterick 1 0 0% −1.00
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00
Ballinrobe 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 8 3 38% +13.75
2m1f – 2m4f 6 2 33% +2.00
1m5f – 2m 2 1 50% −0.38
Over 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Brian Hughes 6 3 50% +3.62
Theo Gillard 5 2 40% +13.00
Charlie Maggs 4 1 25% −0.25
Mr J L Gleeson 2 0 0% −2.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Cheekpieces 12 4 33% +16.25
None 5 2 40% −1.88

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2026 5 1 20% +8.00
2025 6 3 50% +9.25
2024 6 2 33% −2.88

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 13 5 38% +16.75
NH Flat 3 1 33% −1.38
Chase 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
25 Sep 26+139d Worcester Read Johnny Burke's Blog At Copybet Novices' Limited Handicap Steeple Chase (gbb Race) Class 3 · 23f · Good · 4 ran Settled in third early - dropped away by the front two from three out - soon well adrift - finished third 3/4 25 11-10 13183C114B Theo Gillard 10/1
09 May 26+24d Haydock Pertemps Network Long Distance Handicap Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 2 · 24.5f · Good · 15 ran Held up in the pack - urged forward 3 out - dropped away from 2 out - well held at the finish 11/15 2½ 11-1 132—124A Theo Gillard 9/1
15 Apr 26+46d Haydock Read Nicky Hendersons Unibet Blog Handicap Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 2 · 24.5f · Good · 10 ran Sat handy behind pace - moved powerfully into second before two out then went clear - drifted right under a push approaching last where cleared it well - stayed on to win 1/10 10-13 127130A143A Theo Gillard 12/1
28 Feb 26+58d Doncaster Virgin Bet Handicap Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 2 · 24.5f · Soft · 5 ran Sat third early - pushed into second before the final fence to challenge the front-runner - battled on gamely up the run-in but narrowly denied 2/5 ½ 11-0 12598C132B Theo Gillard 11/2
01 Jan 26+33d Musselburgh Virgin Bet A Good Bet Hogmaneigh Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 20f · Good To Soft · 9 ran Held up at the back throughout - jumped awkwardly 9th - never involved and well held at the finish 7/9 2¼ 11-7 125104B117A Charlie Maggs 9/1
29 Nov 25+33d Doncaster Howarth Timber & Building Supplies Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 19.5f · Soft · 7 ran Up with the pace - pressed for the front before the second then forged ahead and well in command approaching the last - kept on under hands and heels to score 1/7 11-8 119104A140A Brian Hughes 11/2
27 Oct 25+21d Bangor-on-Dee Countryside Day On 12th November Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 23f · Good · 8 ran Handy on rail early - hit the 6th before hitting front only briefly - driven and lost lead on the home turn - dropped away fast after two out 5/8 15 11-11 11992B105B Charlie Maggs 5/1
06 Oct 25+149d Stratford DragonBet Offer 10 Get 20 Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 22f · Good · 6 ran Settled close up wide - joined leader two out - hit front off the home bend travelling strongly - opened advantage approaching final obstacle and stayed on strongly to the line 1/6 11-11 11478B131B Charlie Maggs 11/4
10 May 25+28d Warwick Valley Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 25f · Good · 3 ran Settled at the back early - stumbled at the 6th - pressed for effort before the 8th - left in pursuit of the leader from the 9th - not at best 3 out - closing when jumping awkwardly at the last - stayed on but denied close home 2/3 nk 11-11 112119C117C Charlie Maggs 4/9F
12 Apr 25+27d Bangor-on-Dee Unicorn Travel Wrexham Limited Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 23f · Good · 7 ran Settled in the pack early - improved into contention 4 out - urged forward after 3 out - edged in front before 2 out - stormed away approaching the last and stayed on to win 1/7 11-7 107103A126A Theo Gillard 4/1
16 Mar 25+89d Market Rasen 100% RacingTV Profits Back To Racing Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 23f · Good · 6 ran Sat close to the pace early - dropped away and urged after 3 out - regained second spot 2 out - couldn't threaten winner and hung on for third without finding more up the run-in 3/6 1¼ 11-11 107111A121B Brian Hughes 13/2
17 Dec 24+31d Catterick Horseshoe Cafe Bar Opens Today Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 19.5f · Good · 7 ran Went straight to front - lost the advantage soon after second - given encouragement approaching two out and lacking the pace of principal rival off the home turn - stayed on from the last but well held 2/7 14 11-7 —117B117A Brian Hughes 7/2
16 Nov 24+31d Wetherby Scan Your tote Bet With Raceday-Ready Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 3 · 19.5f · Good · 5 ran Jumped a touch untidily early - set the pace throughout - asked for effort before 3 out - drew right away approaching the last and kept finding more to win 1/5 11-0 —91C120B Brian Hughes 1/2F
16 Oct 24+39d Wetherby Quilter Cheviot Supporting Spinal Research Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 19.5f · Good To Soft · 13 ran Settled in the pack early - hit a flat spot three from home before dropping to sixth and losing momentum - another mistake two out - stayed on late without threatening the front - finished sixth well beaten 6/13 nk 11-0 —122B116A Brian Hughes 7/1
07 Sep 24+97d Stratford Andy Townsend Memorial Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 5 · 16.5f · Good · 5 ran Set the gallop at an easy speed early - upped the pressure 4f out - roused approaching the home turn - pushed along and put under pressure inside the final furlong - locked in a battle to the line - edged in front briefly then pushed back into second close home - found more in the last strides to prevail by the finish 1/5 11-2 —44C122B Brian Hughes 8/13F
02 Jun 24+26d Kilbeggan Follow Kilbeggan On Facebook (Pro/Am) Flat Race 16f · Good · 9 ran 2/9 2½ 11-9 —106A138A Mr J L Gleeson 4/1
07 May 24 Ballinrobe Harrington Concrete & Quarries Flat Race 17f · Yielding · 16 ran 5/16 1¾ 11-9 —55B120A Mr J L Gleeson 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has Serious Chat (IRE) won?
Serious Chat (IRE) won 6 of 17 archived starts between 2024 and 2026, a strike rate of 35.3%. Placed 9 times in total (52.9% of starts).
Who trains Serious Chat (IRE)?
Serious Chat (IRE) is trained by Donald McCain, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 25 September 2026.
Who is Serious Chat (IRE)'s sire?
Serious Chat (IRE) is by Doyen (IRE) out of Mathine (FR), whose sire is Malinas.
What going does Serious Chat (IRE) prefer?
Serious Chat (IRE) has the best record on good going: 5 wins from 12 starts (41.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Serious Chat (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 131, from the run on 25 September 2026. The highest on record is 132.
What is Serious Chat (IRE)'s sire's record?
Doyen (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.5% of 7,346 runs since Jan 2008 (605 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Serious Chat (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Mathine (FR), Serious Chat (IRE) has 7 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Arizona Cardinal (GB) (7). Highest grade won: Class 1 (Arizona Cardinal (GB)). The wins came over 2m1½f–3m2f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2024. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.