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Horse profile

So They Tell Me (IRE)

7yo gelding · Trainer Padraig Roche · Owner John P Mcmanus
by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Speckled Wood (IRE) (High Chaparral)
13 runs · 10 courses · from Mar 2023
As at 8 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
Won at Punchestown Beaten favourite LTO Last run 2 Mar 2026 · 5th of 13 Last raced off OR 107
KTB Profile

So They Tell Me is a Flemensfirth gelding who won one of 13 starts on turf. His sole success came in the K-Mech Mechanical Handicap Hurdle at Punchestown in Jun 2024 over 2m5f – 3m on soft ground off an official rating of 106. Typically held up he finished fifth of 13 in the Dublin National Handicap Chase at Leopardstown in Mar 2026 when last raced off OR 107. He has raced at ten different courses.

Based on 13 archived runs · run-style from 7 commented runs since Jan 2025 · updated 8 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance Typically held up
Official rating107↓ 6lb off peak
107 106–113

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 118 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Leopardstown, 2 Mar 2026

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 9 figures · best 122B · median 93
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 8 Nov 2025
Soft5122B1181 run · —
Heavy393B761 run · —
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 8 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m3122B118—
1m5f – 2m367B65—
2m1f – 2m4f298C871 run · —
Over 3m1——1 run · —

Of 13 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (2) · did not complete (2).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 13 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 113A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Leopardstown, 2 Mar 2026 Official rating 107 at the last run, 2 Mar 2026

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 10 figures · best 125A · median 110
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 8 Nov 2025
Soft5119A1081 run · —
Heavy4125A1142 runs · 112 / 106.5
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 8 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m4119A1141 run · —
1m5f – 2m3125A108—
2m1f – 2m4f2101A1001 run · —
Over 3m1——1 run · —

Of 13 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 13 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 7 analysed runs since Jan 2025

  • Held up 4 (57%) · 0 wins
  • Mid-division 3 (43%) · 0 wins

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Flemensfirth (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,290 runs since Jan 2008 (1,595 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3800%−11.9—
Good to Firm522509.6%−2.3—
Good4,05944310.9%−10 from 1
Good to Soft2,93635412.1%+0.20 from 1
Soft5,87675112.8%+0.91 from 6
Heavy3,81744911.8%−0.10 from 5
Standard (AW)4224.8%−7.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f200%−11.9—
1m2f – 1m4f2514%−7.9—
1m5f – 2m4,48654812.2%+0.30 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f6,08272411.9%00 from 3
2m5f – 3m5,26362311.8%−0.11 from 6
Over 3m1,43215310.7%−1.20 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 8 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Speckled Wood (IRE) (High Chaparral)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Guided By You (IRE)40——
Sandmall (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 6 1 17% +11.00
Heavy 5 0 0% −5.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Navan 2 0 0% −2.00
Fairyhouse 2 0 0% −2.00
Punchestown 2 1 50% +15.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Clonmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Galway 1 0 0% −1.00
Bellewstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 6 1 17% +11.00
2m1f – 2m4f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00
Over 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Aidan Kelly 9 1 11% +8.00
Mark Walsh 3 0 0% −3.00
Simon Torrens 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Hood 8 1 13% +9.00
None 5 0 0% −5.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2026 3 0 0% −3.00
2025 4 0 0% −4.00
2024 3 1 33% +14.00
2023 3 0 0% −3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 8 1 13% +9.00
Chase 5 0 0% −5.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2026 · 3 runs
02 Mar 26+22d Leopardstown Dublin National Handicap Chase 3m4½f · Yielding To Soft · 13 ran Held up early - needed encouragement past 4th - mid-division after 9th - further back before 14th - improved position approaching 3 out - up to 7th before 2 out - stayed on without threatening the front runners 5/13 ½ 11-1 107118B113A Aidan Kelly 7/2F
08 Feb 26+38d Navan William Hill Each Way Extra Handicap Chase 3m · Heavy · 17 ran Settled midpack early - improved into 5th before four out - pressed for effort but made no headway three out - clipped the fence after - stayed on same gear from the second last to finish third 3/17 ½ 10-9 106—112A Aidan Kelly 16/1
01 Jan 26+30d Fairyhouse Grimes Estate Agents Beginners Chase 2m6f · Yielding · 7 ran Held up at back of field - small error 8th and driven to keep up - no response from 5 out - dropped away and pulled up before 2 out PU/7 — 11-9 ——— Aidan Kelly 100/1
2025 · 4 runs
02 Dec 25+16d Clonmel Clonmel Racecourse Supporters Club Only 100 To Join Beginners Chase 2m1½f · Heavy · 15 ran Held up towards back of pack - shuffled to 9th then improved to 6th but made no headway around 2 out - dropped away before last 8/15 16 11-9 —76B101A Aidan Kelly 50/1
16 Nov 25+297d Navan Race And Stay Irish EBF Beginners Chase 2m4½f · Heavy · 12 ran Off the pace from the start - clipped fence at 1st - lost touch 5 out before being eased out of contention before 3 out PU/12 — 11-9 ——— Aidan Kelly 125/1
23 Jan 25+12d Gowran Park Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Hurdle 3m½f · Soft To Heavy · 18 ran Settled in the pack early - improved into 5th and pushed along 3 out - unable to threaten those in front - well held at the finish 6/18 4½ 11-5 11393B116A Aidan Kelly 16/1
11 Jan 25+164d Fairyhouse SBK Handicap Hurdle 3m · Yielding To Soft · 8 ran Held up towards the back - still last early on - up to 8th after the 4th - lost momentum briefly at the 7th - driven on with three left - improved into modest 5th before the last - stayed on to finish fifth 5/8 9½ 10-8 113122B106A Aidan Kelly 11/4
2024 · 3 runs
31 Jul 24+52d Galway Tote, Never Beaten By SP Handicap Hurdle 2m6½f · Good · 20 ran PU/20 — 11-2 113—— Mark Walsh 15/2
09 Jun 24+46d Punchestown K-Mech Mechanical Handicap Hurdle 2m7½f · Yielding · 13 ran 1/13 10-4 106118B119A Aidan Kelly 16/1
24 Apr 24+160d Bellewstown BoyleSports Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 2m1f · Good To Yielding · 16 ran 13/16 ½ 11-11 10698C99C Mark Walsh 4/1J
2023 · 3 runs
16 Nov 23+26d Punchestown Ladbrokes Play '1-2-Free' On Football Maiden Hurdle 2m½f · Soft · 22 ran 5/22 2½ 11-12 —65C108C Mark Walsh 18/1
21 Oct 23+205d Limerick King John's Castle Maiden Hurdle 2m · Heavy · 18 ran 3/18 5½ 11-7 —67B125A Simon Torrens 16/1
30 Mar 23 Naas Join The Naas Racecourse Business Club Maiden Hurdle 2m½f · Yielding To Soft · 23 ran 8/23 1¾ 11-0 —39B100A Aidan Kelly 40/1

Quick answers

How many races has So They Tell Me won?
So They Tell Me (IRE) won 1 of 13 archived starts between 2023 and 2026, a strike rate of 7.7%. Placed 3 times in total (23.1% of starts).
Who trains So They Tell Me?
So They Tell Me (IRE) is trained by Padraig Roche, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 2 March 2026.
Who is So They Tell Me's sire?
So They Tell Me (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Speckled Wood (IRE), whose sire is High Chaparral.
What going does So They Tell Me prefer?
So They Tell Me (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 6 starts (16.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is So They Tell Me's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 107, from the run on 2 March 2026. The highest on record is 113.
What is So They Tell Me's sire's record?
Flemensfirth (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,290 runs since Jan 2008 (1,595 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are So They Tell Me's siblings?
Out of Speckled Wood (IRE), So They Tell Me (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from March 2023. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.