Something Else (FR)
Something Else (FR) is 1 from 16. Hasn't won since Jan 2013. The win came on the all-weather — 0 from 10 on turf.
- 1–16Wins / Runs
- 6.3%Strike rate
- 4 (25%)Placed
- −12.80£1 level staken=16 at SP
- 0.78Fair A/E n=15 · 0.64 incl. margin
- 36dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 10.3% of 2,477 runs since Jan 2008 (206 horses).
Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 14.6% from 328. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 7.3% from 177.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 5 | 2 | 40% | +29.7 | — |
| Good to Firm | 91 | 11 | 12.1% | +1.8 | — |
| Good | 543 | 53 | 9.8% | −0.5 | 0 from 3 |
| Good to Soft | 332 | 36 | 10.8% | +0.5 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 588 | 72 | 12.2% | +1.9 | 0 from 3 |
| Heavy | 236 | 22 | 9.3% | −1 | 0 from 2 |
| Standard (AW) | 680 | 58 | 8.5% | −1.8 | 1 from 6 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 73 | 2 | 2.7% | −7.6 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 419 | 43 | 10.3% | 0 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 613 | 59 | 9.6% | −0.7 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 817 | 85 | 10.4% | +0.1 | 1 from 15 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 328 | 48 | 14.6% | +4.3 | 0 from 1 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 177 | 13 | 7.3% | −3 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 46 | 3 | 6.5% | −3.8 | — |
| Over 3m | 4 | 1 | 25% | +14.7 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Perky (FR) (1 win).
The wins came over 1m1f.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Perky (FR) | 15 | 1 | 1m1f | — |
| Tigreville (FR) | 20 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 6 | 1 | 17% | −2.80 |
| Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Heavy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Deauville (FR) | 5 | 1 | 20% | −1.80 |
| Chantilly (FR) | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Longchamp (FR) | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Saint-Cloud (FR) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Maisons-Laffitte (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Le Croise-Laroche | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 15 | 1 | 7% | −11.80 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Maxime Guyon | 5 | 1 | 20% | −1.80 |
| Alexis Badel | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Alexandre Champenois | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Olivier Peslier | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Umberto Rispoli | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Thomas Messina | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Pierre-Charles Boudot | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 14 | 1 | 7% | −10.80 |
| Cheekpieces | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2013 | 11 | 1 | 9% | −7.80 |
| 2012 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has Something Else (FR) won?
- Something Else (FR) won 1 of 16 archived starts between 2012 and 2013, a strike rate of 6.3%. Placed 4 times in total (25% of starts).
- Who trained Something Else (FR)?
- Something Else (FR) was trained by J-V Toux on the most recent run on record, at Deauville (FR) on 14 December 2013.
- Who is Something Else (FR)'s sire?
- Something Else (FR) is by Gold Away (IRE) out of For Ever Hopefull (GB), whose sire is Halling.
- What going does Something Else (FR) prefer?
- Something Else (FR) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 1 win from 6 starts (16.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Something Else (FR)'s sire's record?
- Gold Away (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.3% of 2,477 runs since Jan 2008 (206 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 14.6% from 328. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 7.3% from 177.
- Who are Something Else (FR)'s siblings?
- Out of For Ever Hopefull (GB), Something Else (FR) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Perky (FR) (1). The wins came over 1m1f. As at Oct 2026.