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Horse profile

Talkingstick (IRE)

6yo mare (at last run, Jul 2008) · Last trainer Alison Thorpe · Last owner A T Bailey
by Bob Back (USA) out of Shaunies Lady (IRE) (Don't Forget Me)
14 runs · 13 courses · from Feb 2007
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 2 Jul 2008 — 6,685 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2008 · 12th of 14 Won at Uttoxeter Last raced off OR 100
KTB Profile

Talkingstick (IRE) is 1 from 14, the win coming at Class 4 level. Hasn't won since May 2008. The win came on good or faster ground (0 from 6 on softer). Last raced off a career-high mark of 100.

Based on 14 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster Win at Class 4 OR at career high

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Talkingstick (IRE) has 1 produce in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Bronwydd (GB)80——
Official rating100At career-high mark
100 83–100

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 115A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Hereford, 22 Jun 2008 Official rating 100 at the last jumps run, 2 Jul 2008

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 51C the best of the last 1 rated run · Fairyhouse, 3 Feb 2007

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 12 figures · best 118A · median 87
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good to Firm5118A94—
Good389C84—
Soft2114A99.5—
Good to Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m8118A86.5—
2m1f – 2m4f4115A99.5—
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 14 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 13 figures from 14 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Bob Back (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 3,724 runs since Jan 2008 (338 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm24416.7%+4.9—
Good to Firm2683713.8%+21 from 5
Good97610010.2%−1.60 from 3
Good to Soft5725810.1%−1.70 from 2
Soft1,06613012.2%+0.40 from 2
Heavy79410613.4%+1.60 from 2
Standard (AW)24416.7%+4.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f100%−11.8—
1m – 1m1f1200%−11.8—
1m2f – 1m4f3013.3%−8.5—
1m5f – 2m86311012.7%+0.91 from 9
2m1f – 2m4f1,31916612.6%+0.80 from 4
2m5f – 3m1,19913311.1%−0.70 from 1
Over 3m300299.7%−2.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Shaunies Lady (IRE) (Don't Forget Me)

3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Saunders Road (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 2m½f–2m5f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Saunders Road (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Saunders Road (IRE)1952m½f–2m5fClass 3
Kim Tian Road (IRE)1322m1f–2m2½fClass 4
Erins Lady (IRE)100——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 5 1 20% +16.00
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 3 1 33% +18.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Wexford 2 0 0% −2.00
Perth 1 0 0% −1.00
Hereford 1 0 0% −1.00
Newton Abbot 1 0 0% −1.00
Uttoxeter 1 1 100% +20.00
Exeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Tramore 1 0 0% −1.00
Roscommon 1 0 0% −1.00
Tralee 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00
Thurles 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 9 1 11% +12.00
2m1f – 2m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Christian Williams 2 1 50% +19.00
Mr P J Tolman 2 0 0% −2.00
Denis O'Regan 2 0 0% −2.00
Mrs Pauline Condon 2 0 0% −2.00
Jamie Moore 1 0 0% −1.00
Richard Johnson 1 0 0% −1.00
P W Flood 1 0 0% −1.00
T G M Ryan 1 0 0% −1.00
Ross Geraghty 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr J M Casey 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 6 1 17% +15.00
2007 8 0 0% −8.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 11 1 9% +10.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00
Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
02 Jul 08+10d Perth Parks Renault Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 16.5f · Good · 14 ran 12/14 dht 10-1 10084C Jamie Moore 8/1
22 Jun 08+17d Hereford The H.E.R.O.S. Mares Only Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 19.5f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 3/14 1½ 11-7 100115A Christian Williams 14/1
05 Jun 08+11d Newton Abbot Car Boot Sale Here 29th June Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 17f · Soft · 9 ran 3/9 3¼ 11-3 89114A Richard Johnson 11/2
25 May 08+19d Uttoxeter Coalville Glass 35th Anniversary Mares Only Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 1/15 10-10 96118A Christian Williams 20/1
06 May 08+13d Exeter Exeter Conditional Jockeys' Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 18.5f · Good To Firm · 18 ran 7/18 ½ 10-12 9184A Mr P J Tolman 33/1
23 Apr 08+251d Worcester Connolly's Red Mills Conditionals' Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 24f · Good To Soft · 11 ran F/11 — 10-12 91— Mr P J Tolman 33/1
16 Aug 07+41d Tramore Snowcream Milk Handicap Hurdle (74-95) 16f · Good To Yielding · 16 ran 9/16 2½ 11-0 8381C Denis O'Regan 14/1
06 Jul 07+25d Wexford Nick O'Donnell Memorial Handicap Hurdle (74-95) 16f · Good · 16 ran 14/16 22 11-2 8574C P W Flood 12/1
11 Jun 07+15d Roscommon Ladies Day At Roscommon July 9th Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good To Firm · 18 ran 7/18 8 11-7 —94C Denis O'Regan 20/1
27 May 07+16d Tralee traleeraces At hotmail.com (Mares) Maiden Hurdle 20f · Yielding To Soft · 19 ran 9/19 13 10-12 —85C T G M Ryan 14/1
11 May 07+32d Wexford Universal Building Products Ltd Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good · 12 ran 6/12 ¾ 10-13 —89C Ross Geraghty 25/1
09 Apr 07+32d Cork Greencore (Mares) (Pro-Am) INH Flat Race 16f · Good To Firm · 23 ran 16/23 ¾ 11-1 —90C Mrs Pauline Condon 14/1
08 Mar 07+33d Thurles Mid Tipp Mart (Ladies) INH Flat Race 16f · Heavy · 16 ran 6/16 30 11-0 —81C Mrs Pauline Condon 16/1
03 Feb 07 Fairyhouse ISF EBF Doncaster Sales (Mares )(Pro-Am) INH Flat Race 16f · Heavy · 15 ran 10/15 1½ 10-6 —51C Mr J M Casey 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Talkingstick (IRE) won?
Talkingstick (IRE) won 1 of 14 archived starts between 2007 and 2008, a strike rate of 7.1%. Placed 3 times in total (21.4% of starts).
Who trained Talkingstick (IRE)?
Talkingstick (IRE) was trained by Alison Thorpe on the most recent run on record, at Perth on 2 July 2008.
Who is Talkingstick (IRE)'s sire?
Talkingstick (IRE) is by Bob Back (USA) out of Shaunies Lady (IRE), whose sire is Don't Forget Me.
What going does Talkingstick (IRE) prefer?
Talkingstick (IRE) has the best record on good to firm going: 1 win from 5 starts (20%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Talkingstick (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 100, from the run on 2 July 2008. That is also the highest on record.
What is Talkingstick (IRE)'s sire's record?
Bob Back (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 3,724 runs since Jan 2008 (338 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Talkingstick (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Shaunies Lady (IRE), Talkingstick (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Saunders Road (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Saunders Road (IRE)). The wins came over 2m½f–2m5f. As at Oct 2026.
Has Talkingstick (IRE) produced winners?
As a dam, Talkingstick (IRE) has 1 produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from February 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.