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Horse profile

Thats Ben (IRE)

10yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2015) · Last trainer Tom Gretton · Last owner G1 Racing Club Ltd
by Beneficial (GB) out of Classy Dancer (IRE) (Alphabatim)
15 runs · 11 courses · from Oct 2011
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 12 Jul 2015 — 4,126 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2015 · 5th of 7 Won at Plumpton Last raced off OR 76
KTB Profile

Thats Ben (IRE) is 1 from 15, the win coming at Class 5 level. Hasn't won since Apr 2015. The win came on good or faster ground (0 from 6 on softer). Last raced off 76, 44lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 15 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster Win at Class 5 OR ↓ 44lb off peak
Official rating76↓ 44lb off peak
76 69–120

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 92B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Plumpton, 5 Apr 2015 Official rating 76 at the last run, 12 Jul 2015

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 9 figures · best 118A · median 92
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good597C90—
Good to Soft3118A118—
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m5118A97—
2m1f – 2m4f292B91—
Over 3m2118B102—

Of 15 runs looked at, 6 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (6).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 15 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Beneficial (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 17,044 runs since Jan 2008 (1,155 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm6657.6%−2.8—
Good to Firm93910711.4%+10 from 2
Good5,29654910.4%01 from 7
Good to Soft2,46626710.8%+0.40 from 3
Soft5,05751910.3%−0.10 from 3
Heavy3,15932810.4%0—
Standard (AW)6169.8%−0.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f200%−10.4—
1m – 1m1f10110%−0.4—
1m2f – 1m4f6457.8%−2.6—
1m5f – 2m4,89050210.3%−0.1—
2m1f – 2m4f6,35566110.4%01 from 3
2m5f – 3m4,70152211.1%+0.70 from 9
Over 3m1,022908.8%−1.60 from 3

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Classy Dancer (IRE) (Alphabatim)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Like Ben (IRE)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 7 1 14% +10.00
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 9 0 0% −9.00
Class 5 5 1 20% +12.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Sedgefield 3 0 0% −3.00
Stratford 2 0 0% −2.00
Plumpton 2 1 50% +15.00
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Fakenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Fontwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00
Leicester 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Warwick 1 0 0% −1.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 9 0 0% −9.00
2m1f – 2m4f 3 1 33% +14.00
Over 3m 3 0 0% −3.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
James Davies 5 1 20% +12.00
Paul Moloney 5 0 0% −5.00
Felix De Giles 3 0 0% −3.00
Sam Jones 1 0 0% −1.00
Sean Bowen 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 7 1 14% +10.00
None 6 0 0% −6.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2015 6 1 17% +11.00
2014 2 0 0% −2.00
2013 2 0 0% −2.00
2012 2 0 0% −2.00
2011 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2015 · 6 runs
12 Jul 15+31d Stratford Peugeot Citroen Handicap Chase Class 5 · 22.5f · Good · 7 ran 5/7 1¼ 10-2 7675C James Davies 20/1
11 Jun 15+37d Worcester myracing.com For Free Tips Handicap Chase Class 5 · 23f · Good To Firm · 11 ran PU/11 — 10-2 76— James Davies 25/1
05 May 15+18d Fakenham Orchard Group's Race For Livvy Handicap Chase Class 5 · 21f · Good · 7 ran PU/7 — 10-6 79— James Davies 10/1
17 Apr 15+12d Fontwell Morestead Retirement Handicap Chase Class 5 · 17.5f · Good · 7 ran PU/7 — 10-2 69— James Davies 7/2
05 Apr 15+31d Plumpton totepool Racing's Biggest Supporter Handicap Chase Class 5 · 19.5f · Good · 7 ran 1/7 10-0 6992B James Davies 16/1
05 Mar 15+349d Carlisle Bet And Watch At winner.co.uk Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 21f · Soft · 13 ran PU/13 — 10-0 77— Sam Jones 33/1
2014 · 2 runs
21 Mar 14+25d Sedgefield Betfred 'racing's Biggest Supporter' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 26.5f · Good · 5 ran 4/5 80 10-13 8386C Felix De Giles 8/1
24 Feb 14+98d Plumpton Windsor Amateur Riders' Handicap Chase (For The Gay Kindersley Memorial Salver) Class 4 · 25.5f · Soft · 4 ran PU/4 — 10-2 94— Sean Bowen 15/2
2013 · 2 runs
18 Nov 13+18d Leicester Katherine Swynford Handicap Chase Class 4 · 22.5f · Good To Firm · 5 ran 5/5 39 11-7 10090C Felix De Giles 6/1
31 Oct 13+597d Stratford John Smith's Handicap Chase (For The J. H. Rowe Challenge Trophy) Class 4 · 22.5f · Soft · 8 ran PU/8 — 11-0 108— Felix De Giles 18/1
2012 · 2 runs
13 Mar 12+11d Sedgefield digibet.com Maiden Chase Class 4 · 19.5f · Good · 5 ran 2/5 19 11-0 11590B Paul Moloney 8/13F
02 Mar 12+62d Newbury Colin Ruck-nightingale Memorial Novices' Handicap Chase Class 3 · 22.5f · Good · 10 ran 5/10 11 11-7 11797C Paul Moloney 13/2
2011 · 3 runs
31 Dec 11+25d Warwick Bet With Williamhill.com On Your Mobile Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24.5f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 5/12 ¾ 11-12 120118A Paul Moloney 11/2
06 Dec 11+42d Sedgefield Best Odds At Oddschecker.com Novices' Chase Class 4 · 26.5f · Good To Soft · 6 ran 3/6 3¾ 11-0 —118B Paul Moloney 3/1
25 Oct 11 Chepstow oddschecker.com Novices' Chase Class 4 · 23.5f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 3/7 17 11-4 —110A Paul Moloney 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has Thats Ben won?
Thats Ben (IRE) won 1 of 15 archived starts between 2011 and 2015, a strike rate of 6.7%. Placed 2 times in total (13.3% of starts).
Who trained Thats Ben?
Thats Ben (IRE) was trained by Tom Gretton on the most recent run on record, at Stratford on 12 July 2015.
Who is Thats Ben's sire?
Thats Ben (IRE) is by Beneficial (GB) out of Classy Dancer (IRE), whose sire is Alphabatim.
What going does Thats Ben prefer?
Thats Ben (IRE) has the best record on good going: 1 win from 7 starts (14.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Thats Ben's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 76, from the run on 12 July 2015. The highest on record is 120.
What is Thats Ben's sire's record?
Beneficial (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 17,044 runs since Jan 2008 (1,155 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Thats Ben's siblings?
Out of Classy Dancer (IRE), Thats Ben (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2011. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.