The Same Again (IRE)
The Same Again (IRE) is yet to win from 8 starts.
- 0–8Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −8.00£1 level staken=8 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=8 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 90Highest OR
- 34dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 124
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 22 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Heavy | 3 | 106B | 40 | — |
| Good | 2 | 124B | 94 | — |
| Good to Firm | 1 | — | — | — |
| Good to Soft | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 22 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 4 | 106B | 49 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 2 | 73C | 68.5 | — |
| Over 3m | 1 | — | — | — |
Of 8 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 8 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 7,929 runs since Jan 2008 (551 horses).
Weakest on heavy going: 6.9% from 934.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −10.1 | — |
| Good to Firm | 233 | 28 | 12% | +1.9 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 3,025 | 341 | 11.3% | +1.2 | 0 from 3 |
| Good to Soft | 1,438 | 160 | 11.1% | +1 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 2,226 | 204 | 9.2% | −0.9 | — |
| Heavy | 934 | 64 | 6.9% | −3.2 | 0 from 3 |
| Standard (AW) | 71 | 3 | 4.2% | −5.9 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 24 | 1 | 4.2% | −5.9 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 13 | 0 | 0% | −10.1 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 71 | 1 | 1.4% | −8.7 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1,785 | 168 | 9.4% | −0.7 | 0 from 4 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 2,846 | 294 | 10.3% | +0.2 | 0 from 2 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 2,522 | 264 | 10.5% | +0.4 | 0 from 1 |
| Over 3m | 668 | 72 | 10.8% | +0.7 | 0 from 1 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
6 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Stone Hard (IRE) (4 wins).
The wins came over 2m–2m6f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (The Doorman (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stone Hard (IRE) | 16 | 4 | 2m–2m1½f | — |
| The Doorman (IRE) | 31 | 4 | 2m3½f–2m6f | Class 4 |
| Amboyna (IRE) | 13 | 1 | 2m | — |
| Tikka Light (IRE) | 18 | 0 | — | — |
| We Move On (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Big Fellow (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Heavy | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Punchestown | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Bellewstown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kilbeggan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Listowel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sligo | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Limerick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Naas | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Over 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mark Walsh | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Donal McInerney | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| L P Dempsey | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jody McGarvey | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Denis O'Regan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2018 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| 2017 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 07 Jul 18+12d | Bellewstown | Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | 9/16 | 2 | 11-1 | 84 | 73C | 88C | Donal McInerney | 8/1 |
| 25 Jun 18+21d | Kilbeggan | Greville Arms Hotel Mullingar Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | 12/16 | 2 | 11-3 | 86 | 124B | 82A | Mark Walsh | 8/1 |
| 04 Jun 18+19d | Listowel | Mike Lawlee Memorial Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 2) | 9/18 | 3¼ | 11-4 | 87 | 64B | 99A | Mark Walsh | 8/1 |
| 16 May 18+10d | Punchestown | punchestown.com Handicap Hurdle (80-102) | 10/23 | ½ | 10-13 | 89 | — | 99A | Mark Walsh | 8/1 |
| 06 May 18+16d | Sligo | Strandhill Caravan Park Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | 5/7 | 7 | 11-8 | 90 | 58A | 88A | Mark Walsh | 5/1 |
| 20 Apr 18+142d | Limerick | Follow Limerick On Twitter Maiden Hurdle | 10/15 | 8½ | 11-2 | — | 106B | 95A | L P Dempsey | 25/1 |
| 29 Nov 17+18d | Punchestown | Betdaq Trading Tools Maiden Hurdle | 13/22 | 4½ | 11-9 | — | 40C | 90C | Jody McGarvey | 66/1 |
| 11 Nov 17 | Naas | Irish Stallion Owners EBF Maiden Hurdle | 9/14 | 3¼ | 11-9 | — | 26B | 89A | Denis O'Regan | 33/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has The Same Again (IRE) won?
- The Same Again (IRE) has yet to win, from 8 archived starts between 2017 and 2018.
- Who trained The Same Again (IRE)?
- The Same Again (IRE) was trained by Edward P Harty on the most recent run on record, at Bellewstown on 7 July 2018.
- Who is The Same Again (IRE)'s sire?
- The Same Again (IRE) is by Court Cave (IRE) out of Amber Light (IRE), whose sire is Anshan.
- What is The Same Again (IRE)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 84, from the run on 7 July 2018. The highest on record is 90.
- What is The Same Again (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Court Cave (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 7,929 runs since Jan 2008 (551 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 6.9% from 934.
- Who are The Same Again (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of Amber Light (IRE), The Same Again (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Stone Hard (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 4 (The Doorman (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m6f. As at Oct 2026.