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Horse profile

Therenodoubtboutit (IRE)

4yo gelding (at last run, Dec 2012) · Last trainer William Kinsey · Last owner C Harding
by Bach (IRE) out of Moycarkey Lass (IRE) (Executive Perk)
1 run · 1 course · from Dec 2012
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 4 Dec 2012 — 5,076 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2012 · 9th of 9
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 1 archived start in Dec 2012 as a 4yo gelding. Finished 9 of 9 at Towcester last time. By Bach (IRE), whose progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 2,289 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 1 archived run · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 83C the best of the last 1 rated run · Towcester, 4 Dec 2012

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Bach (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 2,289 runs since Jan 2008 (240 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 12.7% from 244.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm14321.4%+13.6—
Good to Firm2443112.7%+4.9—
Good774547%−0.8—
Good to Soft305237.5%−0.3—
Soft569376.5%−1.30 from 1
Heavy363298%+0.2—
Standard (AW)20210%+2.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f200%−7.8—
1m – 1m1f1300%−7.8—
1m2f – 1m4f3538.6%+0.8—
1m5f – 2m759557.2%−0.60 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f845597%−0.8—
2m5f – 3m514509.7%+1.9—
Over 3m121129.9%+2.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Moycarkey Lass (IRE) (Executive Perk)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2012 · 1 run
04 Dec 12 Towcester Try gg.com On Your Mobile Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Soft · 9 ran 9/9 8 10-11 83C Mr J P McKeown 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has Therenodoubtboutit won?
Therenodoubtboutit (IRE) has yet to win, from 1 archived start in 2012.
Who trained Therenodoubtboutit?
Therenodoubtboutit (IRE) was trained by William Kinsey on the most recent run on record, at Towcester on 4 December 2012.
Who is Therenodoubtboutit's sire?
Therenodoubtboutit (IRE) is by Bach (IRE) out of Moycarkey Lass (IRE), whose sire is Executive Perk.
What is Therenodoubtboutit's sire's record?
Bach (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 2,289 runs since Jan 2008 (240 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 12.7% from 244.

Record shown from December 2012. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.