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Horse profile

Thinking (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Dec 2020) · Last trainer David Pipe · Last owner Nick Shutts
by So You Think (NZ) out of Laetoli (ITY) (Footstepsinthesand)
5 runs · 5 courses · from Aug 2018
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 19 Dec 2020 — 2,132 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2020 Won at Vichy Last raced off OR 122
KTB Profile

Thinking (IRE) is 1 from 5. Hasn't won since Aug 2018. Last raced off 122, 10lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 5 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Of 3 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (2) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 106A the best of the last 1 rated run · Hereford, 12 Dec 2020 Official rating 122 at the last run, 19 Dec 2020

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 3 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.6% of 1,151 runs since Jan 2008 (108 horses).

Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 5.3% from 131.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−9.6—
Good to Firm751013.3%+3.7—
Good312309.6%0—
Good to Soft1501510%+0.4—
Soft237229.3%−0.31 from 4
Heavy9755.2%−4.40 from 1
Standard (AW)2782810.1%+0.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f900%−9.6—
6f – 7f13175.3%−4.3—
1m – 1m1f209157.2%−2.4—
1m2f – 1m4f3023210.6%+1—
1m5f – 2m3023712.3%+2.71 from 4
2m1f – 2m4f121108.3%−1.30 from 1
2m5f – 3m6058.3%−1.3—
Over 3m17423.5%+13.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Laetoli (ITY) (Footstepsinthesand)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Letscrackon (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 5f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Letscrackon (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Letscrackon (IRE)615fClass 5
Okyle Lass (IRE)90——
Chiarush (IRE)80——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 4 1 25% +14.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 2 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 1 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00
Hereford 1 0 0% −1.00
Cheltenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Vichy 1 1 100% +17.00
Clairefontaine (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 4 1 25% +14.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Jack Tudor 1 0 0% −1.00
Fergus Gillard 1 0 0% −1.00
Tom Scudamore 1 0 0% −1.00
Kevin Nabet 1 1 100% +17.00
Alexandre Roussel 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00
Cheekpieces 1 1 100% +17.00
None 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2020 3 0 0% −3.00
2018 2 1 50% +16.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 4 1 25% +14.00
Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
19 Dec 20+7d Haydock Play New Slots At Betfair Casino Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 15.5f · Heavy · 6 ran UR/6 — 10-13 122—— Jack Tudor 25/1
12 Dec 20+27d Hereford Starsports.Bet Puppy Derby Final This Friday Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 19.5f · Soft · 7 ran 5/7 1¼ 10-11 127—106A Fergus Gillard 11/1
15 Nov 20+811d Cheltenham Unibet Greatwood Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 16.5f · Soft · 14 ran PU/14 — 10-4 132—— Tom Scudamore 28/1
27 Aug 18+10d Vichy Prix dHuriel (Hurdle) 16.5f · Soft · 3 ran 1/3 10-8 ——— Kevin Nabet 17/1
17 Aug 18 Clairefontaine (FR) Prix Voix du Nord (Maiden) (3yo) (Turf) 14.5f · Soft · 14 ran 13/14 1¼ 8-11 ——— Alexandre Roussel 59/1

Quick answers

How many races has Thinking (IRE) won?
Thinking (IRE) won 1 of 5 archived starts between 2018 and 2020, a strike rate of 20%. Placed 1 time in total (20% of starts).
Who trained Thinking (IRE)?
Thinking (IRE) was trained by David Pipe on the most recent run on record, at Haydock on 19 December 2020.
Who is Thinking (IRE)'s sire?
Thinking (IRE) is by So You Think (NZ) out of Laetoli (ITY), whose sire is Footstepsinthesand.
What going does Thinking (IRE) prefer?
Thinking (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Thinking (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 122, from the run on 19 December 2020. The highest on record is 132.
What is Thinking (IRE)'s sire's record?
So You Think (NZ)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.6% of 1,151 runs since Jan 2008 (108 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 5.3% from 131.
Who are Thinking (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Laetoli (ITY), Thinking (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Letscrackon (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Letscrackon (IRE)). The wins came over 5f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from August 2018. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.