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Horse profile

Thistledown Rose (GB)

8yo mare (at last run, Nov 2011) · Last trainer Jean McGregor · Last owner Mrs Dorothy Thomson
by Karinga Bay (GB) out of Greatest Friend (IRE) (Mandalus)
11 runs · 6 courses · from Mar 2009
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 3 Nov 2011 — 5,481 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2011 Last raced off OR 50
KTB Profile

Thistledown Rose (GB) is yet to win from 11 starts.

Based on 11 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 86C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kelso, 6 Dec 2009 Official rating 50 at the last run, 3 Nov 2011

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 6 figures · best 86C · median 76
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good380C79—
Good to Firm273C59—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m480C76—
2m1f – 2m4f286C65.5—

Of 11 runs looked at, 5 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (5).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 11 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Karinga Bay (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 3,407 runs since Jan 2008 (315 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm500%−10.1—
Good to Firm305278.9%−1.20 from 3
Good1,0781049.6%−0.50 from 6
Good to Soft730628.5%−1.60 from 1
Soft8229311.3%+1.20 from 1
Heavy3945112.9%+2.8—
Standard (AW)7368.2%−1.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f100%−10.1—
1m – 1m1f400%−10.1—
1m2f – 1m4f6646.1%−4—
1m5f – 2m839758.9%−1.20 from 7
2m1f – 2m4f1,10712411.2%+1.10 from 4
2m5f – 3m1,08311710.8%+0.7—
Over 3m307237.5%−2.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Greatest Friend (IRE) (Mandalus)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Kilronan Castle (GB) (3 wins).

The wins came over 2m3½f–2m6f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Kilronan Castle (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Kilronan Castle (GB)2332m3½f–2m6fClass 4
Greatest By Phar (GB)70——
Comeragh Vision (GB)70——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 6 0 0% −6.00
Good to Firm 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 6 0 0% −6.00
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 6 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Perth 4 0 0% −4.00
Hexham 2 0 0% −2.00
Kelso 2 0 0% −2.00
Musselburgh 1 0 0% −1.00
Sedgefield 1 0 0% −1.00
Ayr 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 7 0 0% −7.00
2m1f – 2m4f 4 0 0% −4.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Gary Rutherford 3 0 0% −3.00
Fearghal Davis 3 0 0% −3.00
Callum Whillans 2 0 0% −2.00
Paul Gallagher 1 0 0% −1.00
Keith Mercer 1 0 0% −1.00
P J Benson 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2011 6 0 0% −6.00
2010 1 0 0% −1.00
2009 4 0 0% −4.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 8 0 0% −8.00
NH Flat 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2011 · 6 runs
03 Nov 11+26d Musselburgh Download Your Free Musselburgh Racecourse App Now Mares' Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 2m3½f · Good · 8 ran PU/8 — 10-5 50— Callum Whillans 100/1
08 Oct 11+74d Hexham Eldon Square Heart Of City Mares' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Good · 13 ran PU/13 — 10-3 50— Callum Whillans 200/1
26 Jul 11+16d Perth Bet With The Dewhurst Ring Selling Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m4f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 7/10 44 9-7 5045C Gary Rutherford 33/1
10 Jul 11+29d Perth Toteplacepot Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 2m½f · Good · 10 ran 7/10 ¾ 10-0 —63C Gary Rutherford 250/1
11 Jun 11+24d Hexham Teresa Duchett Mares' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Good To Soft · 8 ran PU/8 — 10-3 —— Gary Rutherford 100/1
18 May 11+431d Sedgefield Molson Coors Corona Caribbean Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m1f · Good To Firm · 9 ran PU/9 — 10-0 —— Paul Gallagher 300/1
2010 · 1 run
13 Mar 10+97d Ayr Swagelok Scotland Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Good · 14 ran PU/14 — 10-5 —— Fearghal Davis 250/1
2009 · 4 runs
06 Dec 09+147d Kelso Glendale Engineering Mares' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m2f · Soft · 8 ran 6/8 9 10-10 —86C Keith Mercer 200/1
12 Jul 09+10d Perth Bet Totepool On 0800 221 221 Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 2m½f · Good · 9 ran 8/9 25 10-6 —79C Fearghal Davis 100/1
02 Jul 09+95d Perth Don't Miss The Abba Night Intermediate NH Flat Race (Conds/Amats) Class 6 · 2m½f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 7/7 3¾ 10-6 —73C Fearghal Davis 125/1
29 Mar 09 Kelso Duncan Sinclair Memorial Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 2m · Good · 12 ran 9/12 shd 10-4 —80C P J Benson 40/1

Quick answers

How many races has Thistledown Rose won?
Thistledown Rose (GB) has yet to win, from 11 archived starts between 2009 and 2011.
Who trained Thistledown Rose?
Thistledown Rose (GB) was trained by Jean McGregor on the most recent run on record, at Musselburgh on 3 November 2011.
Who is Thistledown Rose's sire?
Thistledown Rose (GB) is by Karinga Bay (GB) out of Greatest Friend (IRE), whose sire is Mandalus.
What is Thistledown Rose's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 50, from the run on 3 November 2011. That is also the highest on record.
What is Thistledown Rose's sire's record?
Karinga Bay (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 3,407 runs since Jan 2008 (315 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Thistledown Rose's siblings?
Out of Greatest Friend (IRE), Thistledown Rose (GB) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Kilronan Castle (GB) (3). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Kilronan Castle (GB)). The wins came over 2m3½f–2m6f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from March 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.