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Horse profile

Too Wild For Der (IRE)

12yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2017) · Last trainer Ms M Flynn · Last owner Santry Power Walsh Syndicate
by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Hilltop Belle (IRE) (Cataldi)
20 runs · 10 courses · from Feb 2010
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 2 Sep 2017 — 3,351 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2017 · 13th of 14 Last raced off OR 80
KTB Profile

Too Wild For Der (IRE) is yet to win from 20 starts, though has placed 4 times. Best effort: 2nd of 10 at Tramore (Dec 2011). Last raced off 80, 30lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 20 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 30lb off peak
Official rating80↓ 30lb off peak
80 80–110

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 70 the best of the last 1 graded (A or B) run · Tramore (IRE), 20 Aug 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 92C · median 81
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f1———
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 85C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kilbeggan, 24 Jun 2013 Official rating 80 at the last run, 2 Sep 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 17 figures · best 119A · median 94
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Soft7119A88—
Good6112A102.5—
Good to Firm285C81.5—
Heavy2110A100—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m10119A92.5—
2m1f – 2m4f4101A95—
1m5f – 2m3104A83—

Of 20 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 17 figures from 20 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Flemensfirth (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,287 runs since Jan 2008 (1,595 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3800%−11.9—
Good to Firm522509.6%−2.30 from 3
Good4,05744310.9%−10 from 7
Good to Soft2,93535412.1%+0.2—
Soft5,87675112.8%+0.90 from 7
Heavy3,81744911.8%−0.10 from 3
Standard (AW)4224.8%−7.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f200%−11.9—
1m2f – 1m4f2514%−7.9—
1m5f – 2m4,48654812.2%+0.30 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f6,08272411.9%00 from 4
2m5f – 3m5,26062311.8%−0.10 from 13
Over 3m1,43215310.7%−1.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Hilltop Belle (IRE) (Cataldi)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Flembelle (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 7 0 0% −7.00
Soft 7 0 0% −7.00
Good to Firm 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 3 0 0% −3.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Tramore 5 0 0% −5.00
Wexford 4 0 0% −4.00
Kilbeggan 2 0 0% −2.00
Listowel 2 0 0% −2.00
Clonmel 2 0 0% −2.00
Tramore (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 13 0 0% −13.00
2m1f – 2m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Tim Carroll 7 0 0% −7.00
Declan Queally 5 0 0% −5.00
Ken Whelan 5 0 0% −5.00
B J Foley 1 0 0% −1.00
Donal McInerney 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr Josh Halley 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 2 0 0% −2.00
2013 2 0 0% −2.00
2012 7 0 0% −7.00
2011 8 0 0% −8.00
2010 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 13 0 0% −13.00
Chase 5 0 0% −5.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 2 runs
02 Sep 17+13d Wexford All New Renault Koleos Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 2m4f · Good · 14 ran 13/14 15 10-5 8092C60C B J Foley 50/1
20 Aug 17+1463d Tramore (IRE) Win Big With Tote Handicap Hurdle 2m · Yielding · 16 ran 11/16 7 10-4 8070B69A Donal McInerney 66/1
2013 · 2 runs
18 Aug 13+55d Tramore Tramore Amusement Park & Leisure Centre Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 2m5f · Good · 16 ran PU/16 — 10-10 90—— Tim Carroll 22/1
24 Jun 13+281d Kilbeggan Hurley Family Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 3m · Good To Firm · 16 ran 11/16 22 11-5 93—85C Declan Queally 12/1
2012 · 7 runs
16 Sep 12+29d Listowel Charleville Cheese Maiden Hurdle 3m · Heavy · 16 ran PU/16 — 11-7 98—— Tim Carroll 25/1
18 Aug 12+59d Tramore Anglo Printers Beginners Chase 2m6f · Heavy · 15 ran 8/15 11 11-7 109—90C Tim Carroll 12/1
20 Jun 12+19d Wexford Vinegar Hill Maiden Hurdle 3m · Good To Firm · 13 ran 10/13 28 10-13 98—78C Tim Carroll 14/1
01 Jun 12+27d Tramore 1912-2012 Tramore Racecourse Centenary Beginners Chase 2m6f · Good To Firm · 13 ran PU/13 — 11-5 110—— Declan Queally 4/1C
05 May 12+20d Limerick Kelloggs Cul Camps Handicap Hurdle (80-102) (Div 1) 3m · Good · 17 ran 4/17 nk 11-7 98—112A Tim Carroll 8/1
15 Apr 12+59d Tramore Waterford & Tramore Directors Chase 2m6f · Good · 5 ran 3/5 4½ 11-0 105—105B Ken Whelan 8/1
16 Feb 12+47d Clonmel Kilsheelan Beginners Chase 2m4f · Soft · 14 ran 6/14 2½ 11-12 ——94A Ken Whelan 8/1
2011 · 8 runs
31 Dec 11+35d Tramore Follow Us On Twitter At tramoreraces Beginners Chase 2m5f · Soft · 10 ran 2/10 7 11-12 ——119A Ken Whelan 20/1
26 Nov 11+26d Gowran Park Gowran Park Racing Club 2012 Handicap Hurdle (80-116) 3m · Soft · 20 ran 13/20 7 10-11 101—95C Ken Whelan 25/1
31 Oct 11+36d Wexford I.n.h. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Novice Hurdle 3m · Soft · 7 ran 5/7 2 11-0 101—88C Declan Queally 25/1
25 Sep 11+14d Clonmel Tipp Fm Family Raceday Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 3m · Yielding · 14 ran 13/14 2½ 10-11 101—87C Tim Carroll 11/1
11 Sep 11+9d Listowel Charleville Cheese Maiden Hurdle 3m · Soft To Heavy · 17 ran 3/17 ¾ 11-5 ——110A Declan Queally 14/1
02 Sep 11+32d Kilbeggan Athlone Flat Race 2m3f · Good · 11 ran 3/11 11 11-7 ——101A Declan Queally 12/1
01 Aug 11+31d Cork Corkracecourse.ie Maiden Hurdle 2m · Good · 22 ran 5/22 5½ 11-5 ——104A Tim Carroll 66/1
01 Jul 11+509d Wexford Ferrycarraig (C & G) Maiden Hurdle 2m4f · Good · 16 ran 6/16 9 11-4 ——96C Ken Whelan 40/1
2010 · 1 run
07 Feb 10 Leopardstown Ladbrokes Cheltenham Bumper Series (pro/am) Flat Race 2m · Soft · 12 ran 10/12 9 11-6 ——83A Mr Josh Halley 50/1

Quick answers

How many races has Too Wild For Der won?
Too Wild For Der (IRE) has yet to win, from 20 archived starts between 2010 and 2017. Placed 4 times in total (20% of starts).
Who trained Too Wild For Der?
Too Wild For Der (IRE) was trained by Ms M Flynn on the most recent run on record, at Wexford on 2 September 2017.
Who is Too Wild For Der's sire?
Too Wild For Der (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Hilltop Belle (IRE), whose sire is Cataldi.
What is Too Wild For Der's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 80, from the run on 2 September 2017. The highest on record is 110.
What is Too Wild For Der's sire's record?
Flemensfirth (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,287 runs since Jan 2008 (1,595 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Too Wild For Der's siblings?
Out of Hilltop Belle (IRE), Too Wild For Der (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from February 2010. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.