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Horse profile

Toomuch Tosay (IRE)

3yo filly (at last run, May 2016) · Last trainer D Windrif · Last owner D H Dubois G Mollier
by Thousand Words (GB) out of Doting Amy (IRE) (Mujadil)
14 runs · 7 courses · from Apr 2015
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 27 May 2016 — 3,814 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2016 Won at Maisons-Laffitte (FR)
KTB Profile

Toomuch Tosay (IRE) is 1 from 14. Hasn't won since Jun 2015.

Based on 14 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 63B the best of the last 1 rated run · Redcar, 30 Apr 2015

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 1 run · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 6.7% of 932 runs since Mar 2012 (68 horses).

Strongest on standard (aw) going: 10.2% from 226. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 12% from 133.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm300%−6.7—
Good to Firm15395.9%−0.80 from 1
Good214146.5%−0.20 from 6
Good to Soft10976.4%−0.31 from 2
Soft16974.1%−2.60 from 1
Heavy5823.4%−3.30 from 1
Standard (AW)2262310.2%+3.50 from 3
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1331612%+5.30 from 2
6f – 7f285176%−0.71 from 9
1m – 1m1f187115.9%−0.80 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f153127.8%+1.1—
1m5f – 2m10543.8%−2.90 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f5100%−6.7—
2m5f – 3m1616.3%−0.4—
Over 3m2150%+43.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Mar 2012 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Doting Amy (IRE) (Mujadil)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 6 0 0% −6.00
Standard (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 2 1 50% +1.80
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Maisons-Laffitte (FR) 4 1 25% −0.20
Deauville (FR) 3 0 0% −3.00
Chantilly (FR) 3 0 0% −3.00
Auteuil (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Clairefontaine (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Saint-Cloud (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Redcar 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 9 1 11% −5.20
1m – 1m1f 2 0 0% −2.00
Under 6f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Vincent Cheminaud 5 1 20% −1.20
Olivier Peslier 3 0 0% −3.00
Mathieu Breand 1 0 0% −1.00
Ioritz Mendizabal 1 0 0% −1.00
Mlle Pauline Dominois 1 0 0% −1.00
Maxime Guyon 1 0 0% −1.00
Liam Jones 1 0 0% −1.00
Josephine Gordon 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Blinkers 8 1 13% −4.20
None 5 0 0% −5.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2016 1 0 0% −1.00
2015 13 1 8% −9.20

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 13 1 8% −9.20
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2016 · 1 run
27 May 16+179d Auteuil (FR) Prix de Saint Germain (Hurdle) (Claimer) (3yo Fillies) (Turf) 1m7f · Very Soft · 9 ran F/9 — 9-13 — Mathieu Breand 183/10
2015 · 13 runs
30 Nov 15+83d Deauville (FR) Prix de la Bienne (Claimer) (2yo) (Polytrack) 6½f · Standard · 15 ran 9/15 hd 9-3 — Ioritz Mendizabal 138/10
08 Sep 15+14d Chantilly (FR) Prix de Balagny (Claimer) (2yo) (Turf) 1m · Good · 12 ran 9/12 2 8-8 — Vincent Cheminaud 125/10
25 Aug 15+5d Clairefontaine (FR) Prix Tierce Magazine (Claimer) (2yo Fillies) (Apprentices & Young Jockeys) (Turf) 1m · Heavy · 10 ran 8/10 1½ 9-4 — Mlle Pauline Dominois 56/10
20 Aug 15+13d Deauville (FR) Prix de la Croix d'Heuland (Claimer) (2yo Fillies) (Polytrack) 7½f · Standard · 8 ran 3/8 1½ 8-9 — Vincent Cheminaud 53/10
07 Aug 15+21d Deauville (FR) Prix d'Herouville (Claimer) (2yo Fillies) (Turf) 6f · Good · 12 ran 9/12 6 8-10 — Olivier Peslier 54/10
17 Jul 15+5d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de Saint Germain-en-Laye (Claimer) (2yo) (Straight) (Turf) 7f · Good · 10 ran 2/10 1¼ 8-6 — Vincent Cheminaud 19/5
12 Jul 15+19d Chantilly (FR) Prix du Bois de la Tuilerie (Claimer) (2yo Fillies) (Polytrack) 7f · Standard · 11 ran 4/11 ¾ 9-3 — Vincent Cheminaud 31/10J
23 Jun 15+19d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de Marly-le-Roi (Claimer) (2yo) (Turf) 6½f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 1/7 8-11 — Vincent Cheminaud 14/5
04 Jun 15+7d Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix Boxing Day (Claimer) (2yo) (Turf) 6f · Good · 12 ran 6/12 2 9-1 — Maxime Guyon 49/10
28 May 15+8d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix Kefalin (Maiden) (2yo) (Turf) 6f · Good · 7 ran 5/7 6 8-13 — Olivier Peslier 18/5
20 May 15+5d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix Pawneese (Conditions) (2yo Fillies) (Turf) 6f · Good · 7 ran 3/7 nk 8-13 — Olivier Peslier 87/10
15 May 15+15d Chantilly (FR) Prix du Cedre (Claimer) (2yo) (Turf) 5f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 2/10 nk 8-8 — Liam Jones 73/10
30 Apr 15 Redcar Enjoy Hospitality At Redcar Racecourse Selling Stakes Class 6 · 5f · Good To Firm · 5 ran 2/5 2¾ 8-0 63B Josephine Gordon 6/1

Quick answers

How many races has Toomuch Tosay won?
Toomuch Tosay (IRE) won 1 of 14 archived starts between 2015 and 2016, a strike rate of 7.1%. Placed 5 times in total (35.7% of starts).
Who trained Toomuch Tosay?
Toomuch Tosay (IRE) was trained by D Windrif on the most recent run on record, at Auteuil (FR) on 27 May 2016.
Who is Toomuch Tosay's sire?
Toomuch Tosay (IRE) is by Thousand Words (GB) out of Doting Amy (IRE), whose sire is Mujadil.
What is Toomuch Tosay's sire's record?
Thousand Words (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 6.7% of 932 runs since Mar 2012 (68 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 10.2% from 226. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 12% from 133.

Record shown from April 2015. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.