Toomuch Tosay (IRE)
Toomuch Tosay (IRE) is 1 from 14. Hasn't won since Jun 2015.
- 1–14Wins / Runs
- 7.1%Strike rate
- 5 (35.7%)Placed
- −10.20£1 level staken=14 at SP
- 0.56Fair A/E n=14 · 0.47 incl. margin
- 14dBetween runs (median)longest 179 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 6.7% of 932 runs since Mar 2012 (68 horses).
Strongest on standard (aw) going: 10.2% from 226. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 12% from 133.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 3 | 0 | 0% | −6.7 | — |
| Good to Firm | 153 | 9 | 5.9% | −0.8 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 214 | 14 | 6.5% | −0.2 | 0 from 6 |
| Good to Soft | 109 | 7 | 6.4% | −0.3 | 1 from 2 |
| Soft | 169 | 7 | 4.1% | −2.6 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 58 | 2 | 3.4% | −3.3 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 226 | 23 | 10.2% | +3.5 | 0 from 3 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 133 | 16 | 12% | +5.3 | 0 from 2 |
| 6f – 7f | 285 | 17 | 6% | −0.7 | 1 from 9 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 187 | 11 | 5.9% | −0.8 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 153 | 12 | 7.8% | +1.1 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 105 | 4 | 3.8% | −2.9 | 0 from 1 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 51 | 0 | 0% | −6.7 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 16 | 1 | 6.3% | −0.4 | — |
| Over 3m | 2 | 1 | 50% | +43.3 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Mar 2012 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 1 | 50% | +1.80 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 6 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Maisons-Laffitte (FR) | 4 | 1 | 25% | −0.20 |
| Deauville (FR) | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Chantilly (FR) | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Auteuil (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Clairefontaine (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Saint-Cloud (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Redcar | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 9 | 1 | 11% | −5.20 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Under 6f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Vincent Cheminaud | 5 | 1 | 20% | −1.20 |
| Olivier Peslier | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Mathieu Breand | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ioritz Mendizabal | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mlle Pauline Dominois | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Maxime Guyon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Liam Jones | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Josephine Gordon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Blinkers | 8 | 1 | 13% | −4.20 |
| None | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2016 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2015 | 13 | 1 | 8% | −9.20 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 13 | 1 | 8% | −9.20 |
| Hurdle | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has Toomuch Tosay won?
- Toomuch Tosay (IRE) won 1 of 14 archived starts between 2015 and 2016, a strike rate of 7.1%. Placed 5 times in total (35.7% of starts).
- Who trained Toomuch Tosay?
- Toomuch Tosay (IRE) was trained by D Windrif on the most recent run on record, at Auteuil (FR) on 27 May 2016.
- Who is Toomuch Tosay's sire?
- Toomuch Tosay (IRE) is by Thousand Words (GB) out of Doting Amy (IRE), whose sire is Mujadil.
- What is Toomuch Tosay's sire's record?
- Thousand Words (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 6.7% of 932 runs since Mar 2012 (68 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 10.2% from 226. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 12% from 133.