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Horse profile

Toomuchthinkin (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Jun 2016) · Last trainer Brian Francis Cawley · Last owner Padraic Cawley
by Heron Island (IRE) out of Shady's Rose (IRE) (Roselier)
5 runs · 5 courses · from Feb 2015
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 20 Jun 2016 — 3,782 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2016 · 15th of 16 First-time headgear LTO Last raced off OR 81
KTB Profile

Toomuchthinkin (IRE) is yet to win from 5 starts.

Based on 5 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 86A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Sligo, 23 May 2016 Official rating 81 at the last run, 20 Jun 2016

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 5 figures · best 90C · median 85
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good278C77.5—
Heavy290C87.5—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m390C86—
2m5f – 3m1———
2m1f – 2m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Heron Island (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 2,819 runs since Jan 2008 (317 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 14.2% from 162.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1200%−11.2—
Good to Firm1622314.2%+3—
Good8108310.2%−10 from 2
Good to Soft4745712%+0.80 from 1
Soft8479210.9%−0.3—
Heavy5015811.6%+0.40 from 2
Standard (AW)13215.4%+4.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f100%−11.2—
1m2f – 1m4f18316.7%+5.5—
1m5f – 2m8859610.8%−0.40 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f1,00010710.7%−0.50 from 1
2m5f – 3m7478811.8%+0.60 from 1
Over 3m1682112.5%+1.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Shady's Rose (IRE) (Roselier)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Croghill Tuppence (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 2m3½f–2m6f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Croghill Tuppence (IRE)1922m3½f–2m6f—
Croghillpenny (IRE)160——
Shady Mo (IRE)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00
Sligo 1 0 0% −1.00
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Thurles 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Alain Cawley 2 0 0% −2.00
Brian Cawley 2 0 0% −2.00
Mr S D Bohan 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 4 0 0% −4.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2016 2 0 0% −2.00
2015 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2016 · 2 runs
20 Jun 16+28d Kilbeggan Hurley Family Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 24.5f · Good · 16 ran 15/16 7 10-12 8177C Alain Cawley 20/1
23 May 16+402d Sligo Callan Tansey Solicitors Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 1) 16f · Good To Yielding · 16 ran 8/16 hd 11-1 8486A Alain Cawley 50/1
2015 · 3 runs
17 Apr 15+20d Tipperary Join The Tipperary Races Supporters Club Maiden Hurdle 20f · Good · 15 ran 12/15 19 10-13 —78C Brian Cawley 100/1
28 Mar 15+30d Navan Annual Family Day 17th May (c & G) Maiden Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 20 ran 18/20 2 11-7 —90C Brian Cawley 66/1
26 Feb 15 Thurles Killinan Maiden Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 18 ran 6/18 12 10-11 —85C Mr S D Bohan 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has Toomuchthinkin won?
Toomuchthinkin (IRE) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts between 2015 and 2016.
Who trained Toomuchthinkin?
Toomuchthinkin (IRE) was trained by Brian Francis Cawley on the most recent run on record, at Kilbeggan on 20 June 2016.
Who is Toomuchthinkin's sire?
Toomuchthinkin (IRE) is by Heron Island (IRE) out of Shady's Rose (IRE), whose sire is Roselier.
What is Toomuchthinkin's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 81, from the run on 20 June 2016. The highest on record is 84.
What is Toomuchthinkin's sire's record?
Heron Island (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 2,819 runs since Jan 2008 (317 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 14.2% from 162.
Who are Toomuchthinkin's siblings?
Out of Shady's Rose (IRE), Toomuchthinkin (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Croghill Tuppence (IRE) (2). The wins came over 2m3½f–2m6f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from February 2015. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.