Tough Talk (IRE)
Tough Talk is a gelding who won three of 12 starts. All his wins came over 6f – 7f, two of them on standard AW surfaces at Dundalk and Laytown. He gained his biggest success when leading to victory in the William Hill Top Price Guarantee Handicap at Dundalk in Oct 2024 off an official rating of 88, eight pounds below his highest ever mark. He had earlier scored in a maiden at the Curragh on soft ground in Apr 2022.
- 3–12Wins / Runs
- 25%Strike rate
- 5 (41.7%)Placed
- −3.50£1 level staken=12 at SP
- 1.14Fair A/E n=12 · 1.00 incl. margin
- 96Highest OR
- 83dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 108
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 4 | 127C | 98.5 | — |
| Soft | 2 | 99C | 95.5 | — |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 75A | 70.5 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 1 | — | — | — |
| Heavy | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 10 | 127C | 95.5 | — |
Of 12 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: no standard for this course, surface and code on the window (1) · not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 12 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style from 3 analysed runs since Aug 2024
- Led 1 (33%) · 1 win
- Prominent 1 (33%) · 1 win
- Held up 1 (33%) · 0 wins
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 14.5% of 7,491 runs since Jan 2008 (775 horses).
Weakest on soft going: 11% from 961. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 9.1% from 121.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 13 | 1 | 7.7% | −6.8 | — |
| Good to Firm | 1,201 | 201 | 16.7% | +2.2 | — |
| Good | 1,685 | 240 | 14.2% | −0.3 | 0 from 4 |
| Good to Soft | 911 | 123 | 13.5% | −1 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 961 | 106 | 11% | −3.5 | 1 from 3 |
| Heavy | 295 | 36 | 12.2% | −2.3 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 2,425 | 382 | 15.8% | +1.3 | 2 from 2 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 275 | 39 | 14.2% | −0.3 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 2,630 | 386 | 14.7% | +0.2 | 3 from 11 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2,577 | 397 | 15.4% | +0.9 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1,490 | 218 | 14.6% | +0.1 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 363 | 36 | 9.9% | −4.6 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 121 | 11 | 9.1% | −5.4 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 33 | 2 | 6.1% | −8.4 | — |
| Over 3m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −14.5 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
3 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Tranchee (IRE) (4 wins).
The wins came over 6f–1m2½f; the highest grade won is Listed (Bellezza (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tranchee (IRE) | 20 | 4 | 6f–1m | Class 2 |
| Bellezza (IRE) | 8 | 2 | 7½f–1m2½f | Listed |
| Lilli Milena (IRE) | 4 | 1 | 1m2½f | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Soft | 3 | 1 | 33% | +0.50 |
| Standard (AW) | 2 | 2 | 100% | +3.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Curragh | 5 | 1 | 20% | −1.50 |
| Naas | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Dundalk (AW) | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.38 |
| Laytown (AW) | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.62 |
| Galway | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fairyhouse | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Leopardstown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 11 | 3 | 27% | −2.50 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Colin Keane | 9 | 2 | 22% | −3.12 |
| Mr Derek O'Connor | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.62 |
| Seamie Heffernan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Gary Carroll | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tongue tie | 8 | 2 | 25% | −3.00 |
| None | 3 | 1 | 33% | +0.50 |
| Blinkers | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024 | 7 | 2 | 29% | −2.00 |
| 2023 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2022 | 2 | 1 | 50% | +1.50 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024 · 7 runs | ||||||||||
| 04 Oct 24+18d | Dundalk (AW) | William Hill Top Price Guarantee Handicap (70-100) Set the pace from the break - driven out with two furlongs to run and a length in hand entering the final stretch - stayed on strongly to the line | 1/8 | 9-4 | 88 | 108A | 99A | Colin Keane | 11/8F | |
| 16 Sep 24+46d | Laytown (AW) | Tote, Never Beaten By SP (Q.R.) Race Sat close to the pace early - moved ahead after 2f - holding a clear advantage 2f out - pushed along to draw clear 1f out - powered through final furlong for a comfortable win | 1/6 | 12-0 | 83 | — | 110B | Mr Derek O'Connor | 13/8J | |
| 01 Aug 24+55d | Galway | Rockshore Refreshingly Irish Handicap Held up at the back from the off - made no headway and struggled to go the pace entering the straight - dropped away and finished well adrift in 17th | 17/17 | 23 | 9-11 | 85 | — | 63C | Seamie Heffernan | 16/1 |
| 07 Jun 24+14d | Fairyhouse | Tote Handicap | 4/8 | 4¼ | 9-7 | 85 | 90A | 87A | Colin Keane | 2/1F |
| 24 May 24+25d | Curragh | Mongey Communications Handicap | 3/14 | ¾ | 9-10 | 85 | 107C | 90A | Gary Carroll | 6/1 |
| 29 Apr 24+9d | Naas | Naas Racecourse Centenary Year Handicap | 5/14 | ½ | 9-3 | 86 | 99C | 89A | Colin Keane | 11/2 |
| 20 Apr 24+282d | Curragh | Tote Never Beaten By SP Handicap | 5/21 | hd | 10-1 | 86 | 110C | 106A | Colin Keane | 20/1 |
| 2023 · 3 runs | ||||||||||
| 13 Jul 23+47d | Leopardstown | Hurling For Cancer Moves To Netwatch Cullen Park Carlow August 21st 2023 Handicap | 4/6 | nk | 10-0 | 90 | 72A | 86B | Colin Keane | 7/4F |
| 27 May 23+21d | Curragh | Finlay Volvo Handicap | 8/15 | 1¼ | 9-12 | 95 | 127C | 93A | Colin Keane | 9/1 |
| 06 May 23+350d | Naas | Dillon Marshall Property Consultants Handicap (Premier Handicap) | 7/10 | 5½ | 9-13 | 96 | 75A | 74A | Colin Keane | 4/1 |
| 2022 · 2 runs | ||||||||||
| 21 May 22+41d | Curragh | GAIN Marble Hill Stakes (Group 3) | 2/5 | 3½ | 9-5 | — | 66C | 87B | Colin Keane | EvensF |
| 10 Apr 22 | Curragh | Holden Plant Rentals Irish European Breeders Fund Maiden | 1/13 | 9-7 | — | 92C | 109A | Colin Keane | 5/2 | |
Quick answers
- How many races has Tough Talk won?
- Tough Talk (IRE) won 3 of 12 archived starts between 2022 and 2024, a strike rate of 25%. Placed 5 times in total (41.7% of starts).
- Who trained Tough Talk?
- Tough Talk (IRE) was trained by G M Lyons on the most recent run on record, at Dundalk (AW) on 4 October 2024.
- Who is Tough Talk's sire?
- Tough Talk (IRE) is by Kingman (GB) out of Terrific (IRE), whose sire is Galileo.
- What going does Tough Talk prefer?
- Tough Talk (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Tough Talk's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 88, from the run on 4 October 2024. The highest on record is 96.
- What is Tough Talk's sire's record?
- Kingman (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 14.5% of 7,491 runs since Jan 2008 (775 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 11% from 961. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 9.1% from 121.
- Who are Tough Talk's siblings?
- Out of Terrific (IRE), Tough Talk (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Tranchee (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Listed (Bellezza (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–1m2½f. As at Oct 2026.